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Is it possible to see a counselor/therapist for free?

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novembernamechanger · 06/08/2006 16:50

I am a regular but have dug up an old posting name for this.

I think I would benefit from some sessions with a counselor/therapist (is there a difference between the 2?) but not able to pay much. Is it possible to get it for free/on the nhs? If I were to ask to be refered by my GP, would my reasons be put on my medical notes?

TIA any advice/suggestions.

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Quootiepie · 06/08/2006 17:03

I think through GP you can see one for free. HV is refering me on for councilling, so I hope it is free... Last year seeing an awful awful awful psychiatrist cost me over a grand.

Quootiepie · 06/08/2006 17:04

p.s dont be ashamed about needing therapy/ councilling. I dont bother changing my name and I say all sorts on here.

novembernamechanger · 06/08/2006 17:08

Re chnaging my name, I was just thinking about where the conversation/thread could possibly lead.

Is there a difference between having counselling and seeing a therapist?

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Quootiepie · 06/08/2006 17:17

yep... therapy is more when you have or might have something mentally "wrong" (that sounds awful I know but cant word it any better). Councilling is more talking things through. When I saw a psychiatrist she just diagnosed me and took my money. The psychologist went through breathing exercises with me, and tried to find a trigger for panic attacks. HV says councilling is best for me because its going through things more... depends on your "problem" I guess.

novembernamechanger · 06/08/2006 17:35

Basically I feel like I'm 'fcuked up in the head' in taht I can't form relationship with men/friends/anyone and that it relates to me being abused 9emotionally/ohysically/sexually) over a very long period from baby to teen. I really don't want to have to discuss it with my gp though if there is a possiblilty of it being put on my notes and it coming out or me having to declare it at work etc.

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Tommy · 06/08/2006 17:56

if you get referred by your GP (and therefore it would be free) it will go on your notes. Hoevere, they may well be a counselling organisation or independent counsellor in your aea who may see you for free or for a nominal amount - e.g. we have a woman at our church who offers counselling but wouldn't refuse anyone because of the cost.

novembernamechanger · 06/08/2006 18:30

Would I have to tell my GP WHY I want to be refered to a counsellor?

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Quootiepie · 06/08/2006 18:39

say you dont want to say why to your GP... they'll understand. I think councilling is best... its not a mental problem of yours. Make sure you do... I left it for years and you get to breaking point.

Quootiepie · 06/08/2006 18:42

and your not fucked in the head hun... I cant sleep with my own husband because of my ex, but I dont think (anymore) for one minute that im fucked in the head. Just go to GP and get refered on to a councillor... and as I said, say youd rather not say why. I hope you find it helpful xxx

novembernamechanger · 06/08/2006 20:04

How long does it usually take between seeing GP and starting the councilling (or however you bluudy spell it!)? And is it something that would have to be declared for work? I'm thinking along the lines of forms you have to fill in when applying for a job and you have to declare mental health issues.

I don't talk to anyone about my past and would be completely mortified if there was any way that anyone (including work) could possibly find out about it.

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Nemo1977 · 06/08/2006 20:16

can be reffered for either via gp..although for psycho therapy would prob be reffered to local mental health team. If it is down to past abuses etc then therapy would prob be better. I currently see a psychatrist and psychologist due to post traumatic stress and depression. Have been seeing psychologist for 18mths, took 3mth break and am just about to start with a new one. It really does help..both are about listening and talking but therpaist are more qualified via uni etc where counsellors do courses at college and tend to find a lot of counsellors are still in process of completing their course. I worked in mental health and at least 80% of cousellors we used to use[tended to be voulenteers] were still studying.

Nemo1977 · 06/08/2006 20:18

Meant to add you should also be able to fiund voluntary organistations in your area whose waiting lists are a lot shorter than gp ones. Gp can be anything up to 12mth wait, voluntary/charities can be up to 3/4mths. Dont have to declare counselling or anything of the sort unless suffered a huge mental break down including hospitalisation etc.

novembernamechanger · 09/08/2006 12:39

Thanks again for the replies.

Are free therapy sessions seen to be of a poorer quality to sessions with a private therapist? I'm just thinking that after the years it has taken me to pluck up the courage to seek help, I'd hate to be on a waiting list for ages before actually starting, and then find that it wasn't really helping. Are therapists who do it for free less qualified/experienced? Are they doing it as part of their training? If i did go to my GP to apply for therapy on the nhs would I get any choice, for eg to see a woman who is British?

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novembernamechanger · 09/08/2006 12:40

...also, would I be able to see a therapist outside of normal working hours - evenings/weekends?
I work full time with absolutely no chance of getting time off.

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Quootiepie · 09/08/2006 12:54

hiya.... I found private to be appauling. They were NHS therapists doing it on the side for extra money. It was very money orientated. 1st thing they asked was how I was going to pay! I find the NHS people do it because they love the job not because they earn £95 an hour. Thats my experience anyway hun x

sophabeszabo · 09/08/2006 13:04

quootiepie, it appears that you have a few things (very) wrong.

november, therapy is not for people that have something 'mentally wrong' with them.

counselling and psychotherapy as defnitions are broadly interchangeable. having said that there is a recognition that psychotherapists tend to have had a longer and more rigorous training (although that is not always the case) and that therapy tends to be longer term and goes into things at more depth (again that is not always the case).

there are appalling NHS therapists/counsellors as much as private ones.

there is free counselling available on the NHS but it tends to be shorter term and often cognitive behavioural (this is a model that deals with things from a thought/behaviour patterns point of view rather than looking at the reasons why things are happening). it can be effective, especially in removing symptoms of, for eg. phobias, but many argue that there are limits to it's efficacity due to the fact that nothing is tackled in any depth.

one of the reasons that it is so widely offered on the nhs is that it follows a more medical model than many other modalities. it is also cheaper due to being time limited.

the advantages of going private are that you can really shop around for a therapist and get recommendations. if you think about how much time and effort people go to to get the right hairdresser it is just awful that people settle for the first counsellor/therapist they come across

however, private therapy can be expensive (although people that have recently completed training often offer lower cost £20-25 p.h for eg).

depending on the area that you live in, you may be able to access low/no cost therapy, although in the main agencies tend to ask for some contribution based on income.

MIND offer low cost counselling but often have long waiting lists, as do many other agencies.

if you CAT me telling me where you live, I will try to find somewhere that do low cost counselling for you.

sophabeszabo · 09/08/2006 13:08

november, very very often counsellors working in low cost agencies are therapists in training. that doesn't necessarily mean that they are crap, but certainly does mean they have less experience.

if a counsellor is UKCP or BACP accredited, it means that they have had a training of four years or more and have a minimum of 450 client hours to their name.

by far the best way of ensuring you see someone decent is to go on recommendation. having said that it sounds as if you don't have a lot of money. often therapists in private practice will bring their rates down for those who can't afford it. if they were motivated in the main by money they would certainly not train in this profession as the training is long and extremely expensive and the reward is a decent living but certainly not riches! compared to life coaches for example, that need have had no training at all, therapists earn very little.

do feel free to CAT me.

sleepysooz · 09/08/2006 13:09

Sorry you're having a rough time, its pants!

I had councelling through my doctors, it was free, but I don't know if it transferred through to the doctors, I suspect it would have done, but I'm no nutter (some people would beg to differ)

There should be no stigmatism about needing help, if more people recognised the signs earlier, the big black hole wouldn't be sooo deep!

You owe it to yourself to get sorted, its the most responsible thing you could do for yourself, only you know how you feel, and only you can help yourself by helping yourself!

Talking is the only way out of the pit, who cares if the doctors know - and it shouldn't affect your work, why would they need to find out?

And you sound as if you have plenty of reasons for feeling down right low, so go for it, you deserve it, tell yourself you are a wonderful person and you have a right to feel wonderful.

sleepysooz · 09/08/2006 13:12

Ooh sorry, yes I saw a therapist after working hours, on the nhs!

Good luck novembernamechanger

jasper · 09/08/2006 13:13

Yes.
My GP refered me to a fab counsellor and I did not have to wait more than a few weeks.

sophabeszabo · 09/08/2006 13:13

if you don't want to cat (does it cost money to do taht these days?) then jsut give me an idea of the area you live in on here, and i'll do my best to find an agency name for you.

i'm in the last stages of training by the way. have been working voluntarily for the last four years in four agencies and in the nhs. so hopefully i have some idea of what i'm talking about.

couldn't agree more that counselling/therapy can really help if you are commited to it... and that there should be absolutely no stigma attached....i believe everyone could do with it!

WatTylermoonfiend · 09/08/2006 13:15

I work for an organisation offering free, confidential counselling to all women. They can refer themselves and there is no limit on the number of sessions they can have.
It is entirely possible that there are similar organisations where you live. My organisation is run by the Council For Voluntary Services - you will most likely have one of these in your town, it's worth ringing the CVS to ask. If they don't run one, they will almost definitely know of a service near you!
(I live in North Yorks so do let me know if this is miraculously where you are from!)
Good luck

sophabeszabo · 09/08/2006 13:17

wat, that is fab....fab that you do low cost open ended. i do open ended in the nhs, but that is extremely rare ime. all my other placements were time limited, although none short term.

sleepysooz · 09/08/2006 13:19

November, the last 3 threads are fantastic news, quick get yaself sorted, I might be next in line

Quootiepie · 09/08/2006 13:28

sorry sophable... was just my experience. Just trying to say NHS ones arent substandard really.

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