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My friend has breast cancer, which has spread to her liver and bones.

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Caff2 · 15/01/2014 23:40

I am so sad and shocked (lump only found in breast (tiny lump) in November). My poor friend has since had a mastectomy and lymph nodes removed. Cancer turned out to be stage 3 and aggressive and was in seven (I think) lymph nodes. Today she phoned and she has spots in her liver and bones.

What is the prognosis, and how can I best help and be a good friend? I feel so worried and want to get it right for her in my response.

She is only in her early 40s and has 3 children.

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bideyinn · 15/01/2014 23:44

I'm sorry caff2, I've no idea of her prognosis but it sounds awful for her. Hope that treatment works for her as it does for so many with breast cancer. You sound like a lovely friend and she will be glad to have you there supporting her x

bideyinn · 15/01/2014 23:45

I think just being there and being normal will help a lot.

Caff2 · 15/01/2014 23:50

I did send her an email after we spoke saying please let me know if I can do anything practical like take the kids to school or help at home or whatever. She wants to come up for a coffee on Friday to get out of the house, so that's fine, but I feel a bit helpless to make anything better for her.

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bideyinn · 15/01/2014 23:53

You can't cure her cancer caff2 but you can listen and treat her like a normal human being which will help a lot. She has a long road ahead of her and will need a good friend. It sounds like you will get it right.

Caff2 · 15/01/2014 23:55

She asked me to make sure I had some good salacious gossip and some problems to discuss at length! I really admire how she's taking it, and stupidly said, "you sound so positive" and she said that this was a good moment, that's why she called now, but the rest of the time she's been really struggling :(

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Supercosy · 16/01/2014 00:11

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. What sad news. I don't know about the prognosis. I have several friends who have had breast cancer and have been treated succesfully so I hope so much that is the case for your friend. I bet she is so glad to have you x

Caff2 · 16/01/2014 01:44

Thank you for your message. She's going to call tomorrow, so hopefully I'll know how to say the right things. I don't feel like a good friend, I feel out of my depth and so worried about getting it wrong and being unhelpful, or saying the wrong thing.

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BetsyBoop · 16/01/2014 06:27

Sorry to hear about your friend, You sound like you will be a very good friend. :)

I'm just coming to the end of my BCN treatment, doing rads ATM (done matectomy + node clearance and chemo) Things that helped me :

Little things to help with kids, collecting from /taking to school if I had appointments or feeling rough on chemo, taking pics at sports day when I was too ill to go, taking kids out for the day on my worst post-chemo day in the school hols, doing extra "mums taxi" trips for after school activities (we normally share). All of this offered rather that me asking for help ( which I am very bad at!)
I had one friend who went with me to almost all my chemos, that really helped.
Also just being a listening ear when she wants to talk about it, but don't go on and on, take your lead from her, sometimes it's good to talk about other stuff and forget what's going on for a while.

The old saying is true that you find out who your friends are in times of need. Most of mine have been brilliant, but one I had thought a good friend (and I hope I'd been a great support to her the year before when she found out her H was having an affair, followed by a very messy divorce) has texted me three times in 7 months (I didn't even reply to her last text...) So just be there and keep in close contact.

As far as prognosis goes, you can't really say how any individual will do, but the treatments for BC are amazing now and for lots and lots of folks they can get secondaries into a "holding state" for many, many years with the new drugs they have. I hope and pray she is one fthose people, it seems especially hard and unfair to be dealing with this when you have young children.

If you have any specific qus do pop on the tamoxigang thread, lovely bunch of ladies on there and chances are someone has been there before. :)

BetsyBoop · 16/01/2014 06:35

Oh and I forgot to say (and you have already discovered!) skip the "stay positive" and "you'll win the battle" stuff. You don't really have a choice BUT to get on with it and find the best way through it you can. No amount of "positive thinking" or "fighting a battle" will influence whether the drugs work or not and to many folks it sound like you are saying those that "lose the battle with cancer" just haven't tried and fought hard enough :(

helzapoppin2 · 17/01/2014 21:32

So sorry your friend has had this news. You may learn a lot by going on the Breast Cancer Care website forums. One is called "Living with secondaries" and the posters on there discuss their treatment and everyday lives, or maybe post on there asking how best to support your friend.

Caff2 · 22/01/2014 16:26

Thank you for that - I have had a look and feel like I understand as much as I can. I am off work at the moment for personal reasons, and she phoned today and we had a good chat - mostly just letting her talk through how she feels. And trying not to say stupid trite things. She's coming up tomorrow - we're sort of next door neighbours (as much as you can be when you're as rural as us!) - and we're going to walk her dog and get some fresh air in the morning.

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Jaffacakesallround · 22/01/2014 16:57

I'm sorry too:(

I had a friend who died from BC aged 52. She'd had 6 years in remission then it came back in her lungs then moved to her bones and brain. She was treated at the Royal Marsden but this was over 10 years ago so things will have moved on since then in terms of treatment. Sadly she died- 2 years after the diagnosis of the secondaries.

I have no advice other than to say try to help her enjoy what she can do now and not look too far ahead.

Lonecatwithkitten · 22/01/2014 17:38

I sadly lost a friend to bowel cancer last year. She was a facebook person so we all kept in contact with her via FB. We used to just send her messages and let her know we were thinking of her. For example April last year my choir learned to sing one of her favorite songs I messaged her to say it reminded me of a certain time in our lives and we had a little chat about those days - at the time she was lying in hospital hooked up to a blood transfusion.
Also the day they found the lump in her liver was actually a lipoma as we are all vets we asked her if she was a labrador! She very much wanted fun in her life and we made sure we supplied that right until the end.
We only once spoke of the fight that was the day she was told she wouldn't be cured only controlled a bit like diabetes and we pointed out we are bloody good at controlling diabetes.

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