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[Jimjams]

This is a press release on Feb. 9 from the National Autism Assn.

CHILDREN 27-TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP AUTISM WITH EXPOSURE TO
MERCURY- CONTAINING VACCINES, FINDINGS REVIEWED AT TODAY'S IOM MEETING
IN DC

WASHINGTON, Feb. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, the Institute of Medicine will
hold a one-day meeting to review important new research on the link
between thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative in vaccines, and
neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism. One of the larger studies
under review comes from the CDC's own Vaccine Safety Datalink. Under
independent investigation, CDC's data concludes children are 27-times
more likely to develop autism after exposure to three
thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs), than those who receive
thimerosal-free versions.
The findings are not only disturbing to government officials like U.S.
Rep. Dave Weldon, M.D. (R-FL), who is also scheduled to speak before the
IOM panel, they suggest autism via TCVs has a higher relative risk than
that between lung cancer and smoking, which according to the American
Cancer Society is only 22 for men and 11 for women. "This absolutely
confirms what parents have been saying for years," says Jo Pike,
President, National Autism Association. Like Pike, thousands of parents
have reported sharp regressions in their children following a TCV and
many of those children have gone on to receive a label of autism. An
easy mistake to make since the symptoms of autism and mercury poisoning
are almost identical.

Dr. Mark Geier is the lead investigator in the discovery. A medical
doctor with a Ph.D. in genetics, he, along with fellow researcher, David
Geier, will discuss their findings of the CDC data in front of an IOM
panel. Among a host of other physicians and researchers presenting will
be Dr. Jeff Bradstreet. He will discuss the results from his
peer-reviewed study which concluded that urinary mercury concentrations
were six times higher in children with autism vs.
normal-age/vaccine-matched controls.

The presentations will begin at 8:00 AM at The National Academy of
Sciences, Auditorium 2100 C Street NW. Dr. Mark Geier and David Geier
are scheduled to present their findings at 12:15 PM. Weldon speaks at
8:00. Bradstreet at 4:00. For an agenda, go to:
www.iom.edu/event.asp?id=17047. For information about the
National Autism Association, go to www.nationalautism.org.

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One's american and one's british. I think thimerosil is originally american but is displacing thiomersil. Tell your GP she's behind the times

twiglett, I'm pretty certain the problem is the different spellings of the name on either side of the Atlantic; the UK pronunciation is Thiomersal, USA, thimerosal.Both are right. Unfortunately for us, the trend is for the UK to adopt american ways of naming drugs- the only other one that springs to mind at the moment is adrenaline/ epinephrine, but I'm sure that there are others.

oops, posts crossed

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This is a breakthrough jimjams. Wonder what old Tone would say if he got a copy of this in his in-tray?

Who posted that joke first: When is a poison not a poison?
When it's in a vaccine.

well yes mercury thermometers have been banned from workplaces as they are deemed too dangerous (I rememeber breaking one in the lab- and honestly the fuss that caused), but its OK to inject a mercury derivative into 8 week old babies. Hmmm

Although most GP surgeries have squirelled away one of the old mercury blood pressure machines as the new electronic ones are cr*p.!

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I didn't think anyone thought it was in mmr.

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No, that's right Droile, I'm much more concerned about the possible effects of the diptheria/tet/whooping cough vaccine on susceptible children.

My DS1 was smiling, gurgling, beginning to "take turns" (as observed by HV, not just by me) before his triple vaccines. By six months he was completely quiet, screaming a lot of the time for no obvious reason...I don't know but I will always wonder.

I'm so sorry, Dinosaur.

Aw thanks Droile - actually as you might have seen on other threads he's doing really well in general at the moment.

Dinosaur - I am so sorry to hear how your DS1 has changed personality. It must be unimaginably hard for you and your family to watch and deal with - esp. if you think you know what caused the change. While reading all the arguments and counter arguments it is so easy to get caught up in the political and cynical side of it all (regardless of which side you eventually believe), trying to work out as dispassionately and rationally as possible what it all means and ultimately what is the best decision for our children.

Your post has reminded me that we are talking about real children and real families who don?t have that decision left to take because it is already "too late" (not the right words, but I hope you understand what I mean). Not sure I ever forgot it is about "real" children not just medical papers and stats, but worth bringing right to the front again when discussing this emotive topic.

AW thanks Stripey mouse.

I have to make clear that I don't KNOW whether that vaccine was any kind of contributory factor, there are many other possible factors in my DS1's case.

thank you so much JIMJAMS for your tireless work highlighting this subject. very disturbed by the findings that 'symptoms of autism and mercury poisoning are almost identical'......

And have recently discovered that whooping cough vaccine doesn't protect against whooping cough anyway (well I haven't personally but a year and a half ago there wasa report about it in the New Scientist- new strain has evolved).

Dinosaur DTP was the start of ds1's problems as well (we think)- not the final nail but it started everything off. Have you read up on metallothionein? Type Walsh metallothionein and autism into google. It gives a pretty good explanation. Unfortunately

Just out of interest re the mercury thermometers being banned and the one breaking in the hospital - when I was little my brother and I used to play with mercury quite regularly. My dad was into barometers and the glass would sometimes break in transit, he often had mercury swilling around in his boot, we would pick it up and play with it, go up to the top floor and chuck it out of a window and watch it explode into tiny pieces.

Hmmmm!

We were given vials of it at school to play with CD!

It was a nightmare if you dropped.

oh and for the sake of completeness - blah de blah no-one's sayoing don't vaccinate your child. Thimerosil free DTP's are available on the NHS.

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Jimjams, re metallothionein, I was meeting my friend who went to Walsh's clinic this week but she had to cancel Planning on meeting in a couple of week when I will grill her about it. As I said, I know she was convinced but has given it up.....

yes would be interseted Davros. I do somehow get the impression that once the damage is done its done (so I'm more interested in metalothionein function being a marker for avoiding things like thimerosil/mercury fillings/lead paint etc iyswim). I know Walsh is more positive than that.