What are the main risks of the pre-school boosters? (exc mmr)

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essbee, you and me both.
I bet jimjams is keeping off the vax threads. I do't blame her!

i'm pretty fking miffed they do NOT offer a Hib booster here. that's just plain ol' stupid and Hib is actually on the increase again.

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no men C booster, either. who's that for short-sighted and dumb?

just MMR and dTaP/IPV or DTaP/IPV.

im sitting here looking at the schedule right now.

i meant 'how' is that.

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the main risk is the same as the main risk from the baby jabs- from the pertussis part. (although see fio's thread about her ds's leg swelling up- that's perhaps a more common problem than something nasty from pertussis). By main risk I mean really nasty reaction that you don't fully recover from- very rare though, but its the pertussis part that is the most likely to do that.

How was your dd with the baby ones?

As for the things they protect against:
Diptheria not present in UK
tetanus- well yep protection that's worth having
pertussis- all sorts of issues with pertussis - no time to go into it now, but the disease itself shouldn't be a particular problem to a 5 year old - although can be unpleasent and very nasty if spread to a baby of course.
Polio not present in UK

Weird that they don't boost hib or men C. - well men C I can understand if they boosted it at say age 14 or something, but weird about hib (but bet that's because over 5 year olds only caught it reallr rarely in the past as the majority of people had developed natural immunity by 5, so presumably it hasn't been taken on board that the age profile may change if you vax babies against it).

here you are, peeps:

look, ma! no Hib or MenC!

ithinkhealthministerssmokecrack

PMSL expat you are so funny!

I am stunned by the 13 to 18 booster- they should give MMR and men C AT LEAST there if they want their vaccination schedule to make any sense at all. Hib as well I should imagine depending on when it was introduced I guess.

I know the US gives MMR then, what else do they give.

Mind you I found out whilst meandering around looking for an article for Fio that apparently thr UK continued giving urabe strain MMR for 2 years after some study in Canada found it was linked to meninigitis. Eventually withdrawn here for that reason. One of the brands involved has supposedly been linked to particularly severe effects in terms of autism and bowel disease with less chance of improvement than from other brands.

Bit like thimerosal then, everyone else stops using it but the NHS merrily carries on. Barking.

here is what is given in the US, jimjams. the CDC sets up the schedule. thanks to contuining efforts, including much financial assistance from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, all vaccines are provided FREE to children under 18 in the States, no questions asked about their immigration status.

This is an Adobe file so you'll need to download the 2006 file:

CDCvaccinationschedule

You'll find it a far, far more comprehensive list.

It's a case of pay now or pay later - with children's lives and health.

mind you I'm not keen on hepB at birth (except for high risk of course). Never too sure about varicella for all either. But from the pov of stating the aims of a vaccination program and then attempting to achieve those through mass vaccination it certainly makes more sense than the UK attempt

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my hand is itching to call my former GP a crackhead, but thankfully i have other things to write, and that, wouldn't be prudent or good for my career.

so i'll restrict myself to politely reminding him that a pedigogical manner best suits those who actually have some knowledge to impart.

actually i could do him up for prescribing me an oral drug during my first trimester which is contraindicted during pregnancy, but that's got a five-year time bar, so there's a year left to do that.

thank you jimjams.
I bet the Health Centre will say 'well it's all or nothing' if I ask for one and not another.

Nope you can't just have the tetanus essbee- no single tetanuses available to the under 10s AFAIK Which sucks because it means neither ds2 or ds3 have any tetanus protection.

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Just seen your bit about pregnancy expat! Bloody hell!!

Not them being awkward essbee- a single tetanus for the under 10's no longer exists (was withdrawn/used up because it contained thimerosal and not replaced). If you find out that its ok to give the over 10;s verison let me know though as I would like ds2 and ds3 to have tetanus protection.

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Just come on here to ask about this subject. I have already decided not to give the boosters but dd's school asks you to sign a form to say they have been vaccinated against tetanus so I was about to make an appointment to get her done. (this is to avoid trips to hospital if they cut themselves etc)

Can you really not get just a tetanus jab? She is 4 and starts reception in September.

Hi, my DS has not been vaccinated and will be due to start school next year. I've been warned that "ooohhh you'll hit problems with that when they start school".

Has anyone had issues over it?

I too am interested in a tetanus jab so would be grateful if you could let me know of anything.

Thanks

Dd2(12 months) has had a booster for MenC and Hib it was a combined vaccine called Menitorix and will be part of the new vaccination schedule due to start sometime this year.

When ds1 was given his pre-school booster in August 2004 he had the last of the DT stock (ie the DTP without the pertussis element as he is allergic to it). The nurse said at the time that he was fortunate because a couple of weeks later there would no longer be a single tetanus jab available for the under-10s. It's now an all-or-nothing approach I'm afraid.

rabbit I haven't had any problems - I just wrote "not vaccinated on medical advice" on the registration form (which is a stretching of the truth but not an outright lie).