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Can anyone help me stop comfort eating?

50 replies

howstupidcanyoube · 21/09/2013 14:44

How do I stop? I know comfort eating is really just a symptom of other problems and yes, things have been pretty difficult here for the last few months possibly a year but I really am working on fixing everything that can be fixed. I just need to stop eating but it seems to be the only thing that helps me deal with all the stress. I feel physically ill from it sometimes.. You know that feeling when you've been eating rubbish all night? I get that every day. And need to stop doing it. I will be grateful for any tips.

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ZingWantsCake · 22/09/2013 10:53

there are two ways I can respond to this

1, empathy and kindness

2, swearing and tough love

which one do you prefer?

howstupidcanyoube · 22/09/2013 11:05

Sleepwhenidie, yes, I am joining pushy mummy classes, starting next Thursday. Emailed them this morning to see about times etc. I used to go to the gym 3 times a week and I was a much better person back then so that's definitely way to go.

Zing, can you try a mixture of both? Say..in one sentence? Grin I respond to tough love very well but will keep it a secret for now

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ZingWantsCake · 22/09/2013 11:07

I fucking feel for you?Grin

howstupidcanyoube · 22/09/2013 11:08

Awesome!!! Grin
Thanks!

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ZingWantsCake · 22/09/2013 11:13

I tell you what helped me.

I asked myself this question: "Whoever said I deserve a treat?"

yes of course I want one, but it's not like I have a right or something.
yes shit happens and we either deal with it or not, but a cookie is not going to solve any problems!

so now I only have a treat when I fancy one. not when I "deserve" one!

ponder on that one

(hug)

howstupidcanyoube · 22/09/2013 11:21

I am very entitled, in my head I always deserve a reward Grin but perhaps it is just in my head indeed.
I just need to stop associating food with relaxing and having time to myself I think.
And start moving my fat arse again. And also tell OH to stop buying all the crap food. He can get away with it (good metabolism or something). I can't.

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ZingWantsCake · 22/09/2013 11:38

slightly hypocritical, I know, but when I did WW last time (lost 2 stones in 3 months) I decided that I will have a treat every day, but make it worthwhile!

so instead of inhaling an entire packet of jaffa cakes for breakfast I bought very expensive chocolate and allowed myself just one piece every night.

that way it was and felt like a proper treat and I was in control!
and it wasn't a needy-greedy emotional way of eating something sweet but more of a cool and calm and happy affair!

it really worked - partially because I really couldn't justify eating a whole box of Ferrero Rocher in one sitting.

so maybe try that?

Sleepwhenidie · 22/09/2013 11:49

Zing that's interesting, similar to what I was suggesting with one cake (or whatever) a day.

In the 'Slow Down Diet' there is also a chapter about how efficiently we metabolise food according to our mental/emotional state, ie if you eat something in a rush/stressed state, or thinking that the food is 'bad' - and by extension, so are we for eating it, then we actually make the 'bad' food even worse for our body, because we at consuming it in a stressed-fight or flight mode where digestive processes are inhibited. In contrast, if we stop, anticipate and savour a snack or meal, the full digestive process occurs as it should - from looking at food and salivating, through tasting, swallowing and enjoying it. In this way the body gets maximum nutritional benefit from the food and the downsides, such as fat storage, are minimised.

ZingWantsCake · 22/09/2013 11:52

sleep

sorry, I didn't read the read! Blush

and there's of course virtual cake to be had!

Cake anyone? Grin

howstupidcanyoube · 22/09/2013 12:05

What annoys me most is that in theory I'm an expert. Helping people lose weight was my job. And now I'm stuck myself.
I will try the one treat a day rule. On my way to buy some ridiculously expensive chocolate Grin

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Sleepwhenidie · 22/09/2013 12:07

Sorry Zing, I wasn't suggesting that you were repeating me, just genuinely interested that it was a similar thing that worked for you Smile. Encouraging for me as I am about to start a course in nutritional psychology, with a view to becoming an 'eating coach' for people with issues such as bingeing, yoyo dieting, poor body image etc. I would offer personal training and fridge audit/shopping and cooking lessons as optional extras.

I'll have some virtual Cake!

Sleepwhenidie · 22/09/2013 12:14

Ah give yourself a break howstupid, it's your first year after having a baby, which is a huge change in anyone's life. It takes time to adjust to. your new role and establish yourself again if that makes sense. I don't think many 1st time mums could honestly say that they felt content and centred with every aspect of their life 8 months after giving birth Smile.

ohforfoxsake · 22/09/2013 12:34

When did we all become so fucked up about one of life's essentials, we need 'food coaches'? That's not a dig, we NEED to be re-educated. We have become so messed up about food. Schools don't teach Home Ec, one (if not two) generations who have never been taught by previous generations, advertising, our own sense of entitlement and reward, so, so many external influences. In my case it was chocolate as a reward. Still is 40 years later. And a nice pud. Or a creamy pasta sauce. Hell, after the day I've had I'll have all three, with a nice glass of wine. I deserve it. Treat myself. (Every night on my own as DH is working away). Then it was self-destruct "I'm worthless, what does it matter if I'm fat? I deserve some love and this is my way of me loving me. No one else does. I'm lonely" (pours double cream into Gu chocolate soufflé). It makes me sad writing this, but I've broken the cycle.

We need to fuel our bodies. Fuel it with good stuff and we run better physically and mentally (and therefore emotionally). It's very basic.

ohforfoxsake · 22/09/2013 12:38

Howstupid - without meaning to hijack your thread - saying that out loud has been helpful. I've broken my cycle of reward eating (three weeks and counting). I feel better than I have done in a long time.

Thank you.

ZingWantsCake · 22/09/2013 12:39

sleep

or indeed 12 years on!Grin

Sleepwhenidie · 22/09/2013 12:47

I agree fox but it hardly know a single woman (men too, but it's mostly women) who doesn't have a complicated relationship with food and their body. Food is so tied up with love and the feelings of comfort that sweet stuff in particular gives. It is easily accessible and socially acceptable as a drug to fill whatever void we have in our lives. Pile on media pressure and the (erroneous) messages about what constitutes a healthy diet from the government, abundant amounts of fast food/processed food, with the diet industry then compounding that, it's hardly surprising that people end up feeling totally confused! with terrible self esteem because of how their body looks. It can be easier said than done to just take a step back and look at food and body rationally Sad.

FunnyRunner · 22/09/2013 13:54

Fox what did you actually do to break the cycle? Was it just the detox / low carb thing? I find a few weeks or months easy enough, it's the longterm lifestyle change I can't get.

Sleep you've touched on something that confuses me: namely what IS a sustainable healthy diet? E.g. I had gestational diabetes and had to reduce carbs but still eat some because of pregnancy. I felt fantastic on my GD diet (ironically) which had increased protein BUT now that 5:2 diet thing seems to suggest that too much protein is linked to cancer etc. So I am permanently confused.

She likes the tough love thing :o

Sleepwhenidie · 22/09/2013 14:23

funny that's part of the problem isn't it! the latest diet always has the 'best' theories and they change all the time. The truth is there probably is no perfect healthy diet and each of us will do better on different food and that too will change during different points in our lives. The 5:2 makes great claims for health and obviously works, weight control wise, for many, but there are also studies that show, for women in particular, that it can actually have negative impact on health, especially wrt fertility. The tests they shout about were done mostly on men, so it's early days with that one.

So what to eat...for me, it seems clear that the traditional food pyramid, with carbs at the bottom, is wrong. I think there should be a much more even split between the ratio of carbs, fat and protein we consume. Other than that, if I gave any rules - to follow 80% of the time - they would be to avoid sugar, white and processed carbs and anything containing trans fats. As much as possible eat whole, unprocessed foods, preferably organic. Experiment with how you feel if, say, you give up dairy for a week or two, then maybe try the same with wheat. You may feel better, you may feel worse, you may feel worse but decide that you just miss yoghurt/toast so much it's not worth giving up Smile, but then you know to have such things as an occasional thing, rather than a staple item. I think if we learn to tune into how our body feels (not necessarily looks) and listen to it then long term you will end up eating a healthy diet and your weight will find its healthy balance. You can also give yourself the freedom to have a bit of chocolate every day or a cake once a week. Hopefully you will end up seeing food as a friend rather than something to battle with? This is all notwithstanding more psychological issues of course, where someone is comfort/binge eating for example, that would usually indicate other issues in their life that would need to be looked at - boredom, depression, relationship issues etc - separately Smile.

Sleepwhenidie · 22/09/2013 14:27

Sorry, should have said, you may feel better without wheat/dairy but miss it so much....

ohforfoxsake · 22/09/2013 14:40

One day at a time is the best I can offer. I had a piece of toast today (with peanut butter and jam). God! What a treat! I truth is I generally prefer feeling energetic and awake. Carbs make me feel shit. Doesn't mean I can't have them, but this old body would prefer it if I didn't.

I'm in my '40s now. My joints were aching, I can't run, it hurt to lie down, and was hard to get up. I don't want to get ill. I have to do everything I can. It simply seems to matter more.

People say 'what happens when you go back to eating normally?' Well, I didn't eat normally - if I did I wouldn't be fat.

My skin is better, my wrinkles less prominent thanks to the water I'm drinking, my house is cleaner and tidier.

ohforfoxsake · 22/09/2013 14:43

I think you are absolutely right Sleep.

I couldn't give up dairy, but find wheat substitutes easy - thinly sliced crunchy apples instead of crackers for my cheese and biscuits, iceberg lettuce instead of tortilla wraps, smoked salmon under my scrambled eggs instead of toast. Texture is important in our food - crunchy, crisps food is quite satisfying to eat.

Sleepwhenidie · 22/09/2013 14:52

I did the same the other night fox, decided to indulge in a takeaway curry, with rice, naan etc. I felt so sick afterwards and awful the next morning. I enjoyed it at the time I was eating it and didn't feel like I 'shouldn't have it' but am in no rush to do it again any time soon Smile. It's a slow learning curve though...and breaking the habit of being attracted to sweet/stodgy stuff is very hard. Part of it is just accepting that sometimes we will do it though, and it's not the end of the world, move on and make the next meal/day one that's nutritionally kinder to your body Smile.

ohforfoxsake · 22/09/2013 16:35

I wonder how much of comfort eating is down to the food making me miserable (lethargic, bloated, tired and therefore miserable) and how much was my life IYSWIM. Things seem worse after a carb binge. It confused me.

ZingWantsCake · 22/09/2013 17:58

listen all of you, drink more water!
it will decrease your appetite simply because you feel full.
and for the same reason it will stop cravings and mindless snacking

water is needed so much for the body to function properly : digestion, cell reproduction, well functioning brain etc etc.
I started drinking more water 4 weeks ago (find my thread about it) and have lost about 5 pounds since.

Unfortunately I was quite ill with a stupid cold last week and just getting better which put a dent in my progress, and I struggled a bit.
but I swear by drinking at least 2l water per day for health benefits and as an aid to loosing weight.

Sleepwhenidie · 22/09/2013 19:13

I think overloading on carbs definitely makes you feel bloated and lethargic, Fox, so certainly doesn't lift our mood, but I also think for a lot of people the fact that we often have that 'ban' in place on 'bad' foods exacerbates it iykwim, feelings of failure and guilt because of that make you feel even worse?

Water is great Zing, I'd definitely agree with that - and having a glass of water or herbal tea whenever you feel like snacking, just to help you decide if you are really hungry or not....

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