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I've suddenly become incontinent

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Peachyjustpeachy · 10/08/2013 23:48

A few weeks ago I had a pain in my back and drop gave me antibiotics.
The paint went away.

Then about 10 days ago I started to dribble a little. Dr gave me same antibiotics and I did a sample. The sample showed no infection, but I'm leaking and have to wear protection.

I still feel the need to go, and am going normally, just always wet....

Any ideas?

I'm 45

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digerd · 11/08/2013 07:39

It would appear logical that whatever caused your back pain has caused this leakage. Your GP should investigate further.
It can be caused by a prolapsed womb and /or bladder.
Oxybutynin tablets can help.

GlaikitFizzog · 11/08/2013 07:41

Back to the docs with you. Ask to be referred to a continence physio if infection has been ruled out.

TheSunTheMoonTheTruth · 11/08/2013 07:49

have you had reoccurence of back pain? any pain, tingling or numbness in legs, feet? bowels ok? not constipated? bladder prob is a sign of many things, but back pain alongside it is a red flag for caudia equina syndrome which is a medical emergency, the spinal cord being trapped by a prolapsed disc. Although many people have severe debilitating pain, numbness in legs etc, that is not always true. Often people walk into gp/hospital presenting with little other than incontinence as their symptom.

Don't panic, but also, don't leave it. Get your GP to refer you to some one who has a clue about bladder problems, but, if you think it could be related to a back problem and kidney problems have been ruled out, go to A&E to have caudia aquina ruled out.

Quodlibet · 11/08/2013 07:49

If the back pain is potentially spinal (like a prolapsed disc) then you should be investigated for Cauda Equina syndrome, which is where a slipped disc puts pressure on the nerves that control bladder and bowel function.
This is an urgent medical issue as the damage can be lasting if it is not addressed straight away - don't delay on going back to your GP and if necessary to A and E if your GP is useless. Most GPs know little to nothing about back problems in my experience. Unless your GP can rule out a slipped disc I would want that avenue investigated ASAP.

Quodlibet · 11/08/2013 07:49

X-post!

TheSunTheMoonTheTruth · 11/08/2013 07:50

quod great minds!

TheSunTheMoonTheTruth · 11/08/2013 07:55

the symptoms of cauda equina on nhs direct website talk about not being able to pass urine, but that is not fully correct. if you have trouble passing, either inability or unable to hold it in, either of those are potential symptoms.

Quodlibet · 11/08/2013 07:56

It's good to note that it is NHS advice to go to A and E with that set of symptoms (see Sun's link). Having been there myself it doesn't necessarily feel like an emergency but actually medically it might be.

lougle · 11/08/2013 19:21

If it is cauda equina syndrome, you need treatment ASAP (ie. today). I used to work in a regional unit and if a patient from Guernsey/Jersey was suspected of having CES, they were transported by plane that day/night and surgery was done within hours. I used to do on-call work and we certainly used to be called in for CES.

How are your legs?

Methe · 11/08/2013 19:24

A while ago there was a lady on here who hadn't passed urine for over 24 hours. She was encouraged to be seen and went to A&E but sadly ended up with significant spinal damage. I can't remember what the actual specifics were but if I were you I would definitely go and get check out.

Peachyjustpeachy · 12/08/2013 11:41

Hi All

I went to A&E last night and sat there for 3 hours.... despite being referred by 111 after your messages scared me into action!

the result is a prolapsed womb.... very common apparently. will be following it up with my dr in due course.

thank you

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digerd · 12/08/2013 13:01

Smile That is the least serious of the possibilities. I had the rim of cervix taken away and an area higher up, so the open space was larger than normal. My prolapses of womb and bladder were determined by an internal.

I was taking the Oxybutynin for a while - did give me a dry mouth-, but not taking them any more and I appear to be cured Smile.
Didn't fancy any of the more drastic alternatives.

Good luck!

cocolepew · 12/08/2013 13:04

I take Vesicare to help with urge incontinrnce, you could get a prescribtion for it while waiting to be seen for your prolapse.

TheSunTheMoonTheTruth · 13/08/2013 21:36

I am glad you went. I hope you feel better soon.

Peachyjustpeachy · 14/08/2013 22:35

Okay.... I went to my gp today and there is no sign of a prolapse!

I havebeen doing pelvic floor exercises.....but, drive could touch it with half a finger on sunday.... But today....it was a full hand in.

Wtf is going on with body?????

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GlaikitFizzog · 14/08/2013 22:47

What time did you have the docs?

Gravity can have a say in a prolapse. It might not be there first thing in the morning because you are just up from lying down all night. After a day on your feet it might be more pronounced.

Peachyjustpeachy · 14/08/2013 23:41

On sunday I saw the dreams at 11pm. I'd sat from about 5 on a hard chair till 8 when I sat on a hospital chair till 11.

I had had a large sunday dinner and a couple of pints of water.

Today I have been mostly cm, so not much sitting. I had a sandwich for lunch and saw the gp at 5.30

However today I've had more pain on sunday it was more backache.....

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LazyMonkeyButler · 14/08/2013 23:51

I am new to this thread but.... I have a prolapse. I've had it since the incredibly speedy (15 mins) birth of DC3.

It sounds horrible (and also a bit Smile) but it does bob in and out! At the moment, I am on holiday. Relaxing, no heavy lifting - it is not there.

However, after a shift at work (HCA - lifting of people involved), I will be able to feel it again.

I know it sounds weird but it happens. My gynaecologist has said that there's little point correcting mine whilst I do this job Sad.

When the prolapse is 'out' I leak urine quite badly (permanently need a Tena lady). When it is 'in' I am fine.

cocolepew · 14/08/2013 23:55

Lazymonkey I would ask to see a different gynae. There was no question of my prolapse (bladder) not being fixed and I do lifting in my job. I had two months of after the tvt (I also had an ablation at the same time) but went back to work no problem.

digerd · 15/08/2013 06:22

When mine tilted backwards, female gynae said had I been doing any heavy lifting. " Women shouldn't do heavy lifting as it can cause prolapses of the womb".

Years later, GP's diagnosis was contradicted by another female gynae who on examination recently, said I had no significant prolapse?

Can't believe the Oxybutynin 'hoiked' everything up , but something has Smile

lilli30101968 · 16/08/2013 11:46

Hi I suggest you to see a women health physio for an assessment and she ll give you some exercises.

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