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Febrile Convulsions - Home Care Advice

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CADS · 12/06/2006 12:50

Hi

Someone was asking about febrile convulsions last week and ironically ds has since spent 4 days in hospital after having had his 2nd and 3rd convulsion in the space of 8hrs. We were given a leaflet to take away and I just thought I would pass on the info for anyone who wants to refresh their memories.

What is it?

A seizure which happens when some children have high temperature. Usually last less than 1min but maybe up to 5mins. Often happen on 1st day of illness or may even be the 1st sigh that your child is unwell.

What does it look like?

  • At 1st the child may look hot & flushed
  • May appear dazed and/or confused
  • Their eyes may appear to roll backwards
  • Their arms, legs, face and other parts of the body my twitch or shake
  • May experience shallowness or a pause in their breathing
  • May 'wet' or 'soil' their clothing or vomit
  • Often sleepy or sleep for some time afterwards

Why do they happen?

It is still not fully understood why febrile convulsions happen. It is possibly due to a body chemical that is released during certain feverish illnesses rather than the increase in temperature. The young brain appears less able to cope with these chemicals and may trigger a seizure.

Will it happen again?

The majority of child only have 1. About 1 in 3 children have a 2nd with a future illness and less than 1 in 10 children has 3 or more. A futher convulsion is more likely if the 1st occurs before the age of 15mnths or if there is a family history of febrile convulsions. Once the child is over the age of 3 years the likeliness reduces. (The several paeds told they happen to children under 5)

What should you do for a febrile convulsion?

Although febrile convulsions can be alarming, as they look similar to an epileptic seizure, most are fairly short and the child makes a full recovery.

  • Note the time that is started. (Bloody difficult, last thing on my mind)
  • Lie the child on their side with the head level or slightly lower then the body (recovery position)
  • Remove anything which could affect the breathing such as food or vomit.
  • Do not put anything in their mouth
  • Do not shake the child
  • Remain calm (easier said than done)
  • Ring 999, don't take the child to the hospital yourself

Once the convulsion stops try to lower the child's temperature by:

  • Removing their clothes if the room is warm
  • Give paracetamold or iburprofen if you haven't already (you can get paracetamol supportories for children over 2 which work faster than syrups)
  • Give cool drinks

DS had his 1st convulsion at 16mnths and then nothing for a year. The 2nd took me completely by surprise and the 3rd just blew me away (we had just gone to sleep). Although, I gave him paracetmol, stripped him to his nappy, open windows etc, I should have been sponging him down but I relied too much on meds because ds cries when we try to sponge him and I didn't want to distress. I feel extremely guilty for not having done it and I don't think I will ever be able to sleep when ds has a fever again.

When he was convulsing, I took him into a lukewarm, NOT cold, shower (I had already given him paracetmol and nurofen but his fever wasn't coming down.) While dh called 999. I was told by the paramedics and paeds (in A&E) that I did the right thing but that it is very important that this is done only if their temperature is still high and that you must not put them in cold water or use cold flannels, apparently convulsion can also happen if the temperature comes down too quickly.

Also, paramedics said that it is better to ALWAYS ring 999 even with subsequent convulsions.

Ds has now been prescribed diazepam but I hope I never have to use it him.

Take care

OP posts:
tenalady · 12/06/2006 12:56

Did they keep him in to check if he was epileptic?

CADS · 12/06/2006 13:11

No

Paramedics tooks to A&E after the 1st convulsion but as we knew what was causing the fever (tonsilitis and ear infection) and he had already started antibiotics we were sent home at 1am.

I gave him some nurofen at 2.30am and went to sleep at 3. He woke me at 4 and his temperature was 39, gave him the paracetmol supp and asked dh to put him in his room and stay with him so I could get some sleep.

Unfortunately, dh fell asleep and was woken up by the another convulsion at 4.30am. Rang 999 and took him to A&E again and paed decided to admit him until his temperature was normal for 24hrs.

As he definitely had a fever during both convulsions they are happy it wasn't an epiletic fit.

DH had several febrile convulsions as a child and 1 epiletic fit at 8 years old (very worrying for me) but he was tested and his doctors were happy it was only a one off. He wasn't given any meds and never had another one again.

I also had 1 febrile convulsion at 9mnths so I should have been more careful. I will never ever rely on meds again and will have to be extremely careful with both ds and dd. Unfortunately, I have had to learn the hard way.

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tenalady · 12/06/2006 13:15

oh thats a relief then. My ds had similar symptoms you described, still needs to be kept an eye on and temperature controlled to stop a repeat performance.

CADS · 12/06/2006 13:19

DS has had several fevers since the 1st convulsion at 16mnths and they have even been as high as 41 degrees so with each fever I got more and more relaxed and thought it was over. This was a real slap in the face.

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harrisey · 12/06/2006 14:56

My ds has had 2 (possibly 3) febrile convulsions.
The first one was a 'funny turn' when he was 12 weeks old, after his immunisations. I was told he was too young to have had a fc as they only start from 6 months! He then had nothing until about 6 months ago (he's 4y4m old), and he has had 2 since then. He seems to really 'spike' his temperature - it goes very high but drops off again suddenly, and both times it has happened it has been after the temp has started to come down - probably what you were saying about it coming down too fast, though no-one ever told me that. I was told 6 months - 6 years is the age range. Having seen the 2 he has had, I am sure that what happened at 12 weeks was also one - he was given his 3rd triple jab in hospital just in case it happened again, but of course it didnt, he was a right little fraud and smiled at the nurses for 6 hours!!
Now I make a opint of not letting his temperature get up in the first place - I'm not usually very generous with the calpol but he gets some now at the first sign of a temperature. If he has a temp I will stay with him at night until it goes down, I am terrified he will have one in his sleep. Funny enough neither of his sisters has ever run a high temp at all but his has been up to 41 and can go down again of its own accord within an hour. Mind you, now I am typing this I realise that when dh is ill he gets very high temperatures but I can have nasty nasty urine/kidney infections and need antibiotics and not have much of a temperature at all, so maybe the girls take after me.
Gosh, I've typed a lot! I'm going to print out this leaflet though and keep it in the medicine box, especially for babysitters etc.
Ds has never been in hospital or even to casualty as both of his more recent fc's happened during the day adn he was able to see the GP at short notice (we have an excellent surgery).
Here's hoping you done need the diazepam - we havent got any as both convulsions have been so short, but they said we would get some rectal diazepam if he has another one, just to be on the safe side.

CADS · 13/06/2006 00:50

harrisey - DS had his 1st convulsion in South Africa and the paeds there say birth to 7 years. Someone my mom knows swears her ds had several febrile convulsions at 7wks, unfortunately she didn't know what to do in case of a fever and wrapped her lo up in blankets.

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april74 · 13/06/2006 09:38

How very worrying, ds had one at 8 months old, very scary, but luckily none since, he is now 6, although dh had several as a child.

Janbo25 · 13/06/2006 20:08

My ds also suffers what the paeds have diagnosed as "Recurrent Complexed Febrile Convulsions" he is 17 months old and had his first convulsion at 10 months old he as since had 13 more!! the slightest bit of a temp and he begins to fit his anything from 38.5c upwards we to have been given diazepam but each time they are just so scary we end up ringing 999 because he stops brathing and I am just so worried about taking a risk especially when they say that diazepam can make there breathing shallow.

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