Apparently children who have had good nutrition would just 'shrug it off' if they contracted measles. Why don't they say that in the UK?

[bumbleymummy]

Article is here discussing the impact that poor nutrition has on children in developing countries.

Considering that the majority of children in the UK have no problem with good nutrition (fruit shoots and Greggs aside ) why aren't parents being reassured rather than terrified into having their children vaccinated with images of coffins plastered over the promotional material?

I was going to ask the same thing merry, please link to a single case of ff leading to death in this country.

bumbley, I hope you do not take these comments anymore seriously - this is just ridiculous!

I just found this : 'Save The Children has called for cigarette-packet style warnings on boxes of formula milk covering a third of the packaging that explain why breastfeeding is so important'.

"bumbley, I hope you do not take these comments anymore seriously - this is just ridiculous"

What is?

I'm with mrsdevere. I was expecting an ad along the lines of the AIDS ads of the 1980s. That tiny rather twee coffin shape is used as a visual aid for those who may not read very well, or may be glancing at a poster in passing. It's hardly shocking.

OP you are clearly very anti vaccination. I can't see the point of this thread tbh. I think it is far more irresponsible to suggest healthy well nourished children will "shrug off" measles and therefore there is no need to vaccine eye. And unlike the minute coffin symbol, your advice may do actual harm.

Yes, curlew, you could argue that but it seems that it is deemed suitable under some circumstances but not others.

The outbreak in Wales may not actually be as big as originally thought - over reporting etc. All the media coverage and propaganda did a great job of getting the vaccination rates up though so I guess that's all ok then.

Yes, yams I have children. In not sure what their vaccination status has to do with this thread. Would you ask for any other details of their medical history?

And yet another out with the 'anti-vax' label. Seriously, where have I said anything about not vaccinating?

What exactly do you think is the master plan behind this allegedly unnecessary vaccination op?

Yes, merry, and breast milk saves baby from starving too. What is your point?

So what exactly is your point? If you're not anti vaccination, why is this an issue to you?

it seems that it is deemed suitable under some circumstances but not others.

Obviously. Its pretty clear to most people what the difference is. Sorry you haven't got it yet.

'Allegedly unnecessary'? Do you actually know what this thread is about chub?

bumbleymummy. Because I have a theory.
Either you have or you have not chosen to vaccinate. Or even, you are in a huge dilemma about what to do.

So instead you are focusing on something else to do with the issue, so that you can have some mental peace about your decision.

I'm afraid you are under the misapprehension that you are making yourself clear.

I'm struggling to tell what the thread is about in all honesty

hint It's not anti-vax

That's what it comes across as though.

It's ok Grimma, I'm not alone in my opinion of it. The difference seems to be that some people have been convinced that scaring people into vaccinating by using emotive graphics to emphasise risks that are fairly minimal in this country while others do not.

Chub - I don't like the way they're going about it. I would have thought that was clear from my previous posts.

OK well I think the first paragraph of my first contribution to the thread responded to that.

You're entitled to your theories yams.

That's ok chub, you don't have to contribute if you don't know what it's about.

Grimma, only because anyone who mentions anything that suggests that they may not agree with some aspect of a vaccine/schedule/campaign is labelled as anti-vax. It's a bit silly really.

There used to be someone on MN, Annie something? She had ID twins who caught measles at around 7 months old on the back of another illness. One twin came thru fine but the other one was left with loads of problems (cognitive & physical). And the poor mother had constant proof of how her child was supposed to turn out instead. Well nourished healthy western babies with access to the best medical care.

Anyone recall Spidermama's detailed accounts of measles sweeping thru her home, 4 or 5 children had it all together. SM was very anti jabs so glad they had the real disease. The week of enforced indoors silence, darkness, high fever, thirsty constantly dry throats, etc. Not to mention being villified as source of an outbreak by local papers. SM had no regrets, though. It sounded like Hell to me. I couldn't stampede fast enough to doctor to get DS's slightly overdue MMR.

You're entitled to your opinion chub. :) I still think it is unnecessary and a deliberate scare tactic.

I think you have vaccinated under duress, and feel very narked about it.

Knock yourself out op. I have contributed, on the point you say the thread is about, as have others. As we can't see the scare mongering you allege, you discount out opinions. Perhaps you're just a little over sensitive to this ad campaign?

Yams, I don't do anything under duress :)

Chub, I don't expect everyone to agree with me, some people have. Thank you for your contribution.

In which case, you did it, but against your own principles and beliefs and research.
And that irks you. So now you are trying to mentally pin the blame on something.