Apparently children who have had good nutrition would just 'shrug it off' if they contracted measles. Why don't they say that in the UK?

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Article is here discussing the impact that poor nutrition has on children in developing countries.

Considering that the majority of children in the UK have no problem with good nutrition (fruit shoots and Greggs aside ) why aren't parents being reassured rather than terrified into having their children vaccinated with images of coffins plastered over the promotional material?

Parents were genuinely worried about the vaccine because of the erroneous reporting in the media, not because they had access to good information.

The suggestion is not that if you don't vaccinate your child against measles they will die. The suggestion is that if vaccination levels are so low that we have a large outbreak it is highly likely that somebody will die, a very small number of children will be left permanently disabled and a large number of children will be very ill for a while and it will be very unpleasant.

If you understood from that leaflet that your child would die if they didn't have the vaccine, that is unfortunate, but I don't think there is any evidence that anybody else thought this.

Well I sound anti-vax to you so I'm not surprised that you think I'm anti-MMR.

Anyway, who cares why people don't like the MMR, if you're trying to prevent an outbreak you should just do what it takes and if that includes providing a single option for those who would otherwise choose nothing then so be it.

The single vaccines can be brought in if required. They're available in private clinics in the UK and they are manufactured by the same company as Pediacel (the 5 in 1)

Chubfuddler, I dont think it is an anti - vaccination thread per se.
As she herself has vaccinated her children.
But she did it in part, because of fear, brought about by the leaflets.
And she doesnt like to be in fear of anything. Or controlled or manipulated by anything. Hence her aggresive tone throughout this thread, as she tries to control things and people around her.

But, as occasionally happens in life, 2 sets of ideals meet. And collide. And 1 set of ideals has to give way to the other.
And it takes a while for a person to come to terms with that.

In this particular op,she got "controlled" by the leaflets.
The way they are produced, made her "give in" and vaccinate her children.

She, ideally to her, didnt want to vaccinate her children. But the leaflets were designed in such a way, that they frightened her, so she gave in.
But she doesnt like to be controlled by anything, so hence the thread .

I'm aggressive now too? good grief!

FWIW I don't live in Wales. The leaflets were not distributed where I live. I've already asked you to stop speculating.

Well your concern on behalf of the people of Wales is commendable.

Do you tend to only pay attention to things if they're happening in your own back yard? Not important otherwise?

Providing a single vaccine is not an alternative that the NHS feels is necessary - it's expensive and not as effective and as a link to serious side effects is unproven why would they do that?

I don't pay much attention to public health adverts that aren't aimed at me tbh no.

Domestic, it is as effective actually (more propaganda) and if the Doh were genuinely concerned about controlling a major outbreak then they shouldn't care which vaccine achieves that.

Fair enough Chub. Why are you on this thread then?

Because I have an issue with the opinion asserted in your title.

But the ad wasn't aimed at you - why pay attention to what my opinion of it is?

The DoH is sadly not in a position to say "to hell with the expense" bumbly .

It would be a lot more expensive if any of them end up in hospital with complications from measles. Worth a thought...

The ad wasn't aimed at you either.

Is it just children in Wales who won't suffer from much with measles if they have a good diet then?

Yes it would be more expensive. So probably a good idea for them to have the vaccine on offer, non?

But they wouldn't have complications from measles would they bumbly, cos they would all shrug it off with their extremely healthy diet .

Chub, but I'm not the one who said "I don't pay much attention to public health adverts that aren't aimed at me tbh no."

Chub, if they'll have it. If they refuse to have the MMR would you rather they had nothing?

You know what would have happened if the NHS had made single measles vac. available in Wales? Some of the newspapers (the ones who still spout about MMR being 'controversial') would have turned it into vindication of the anti-MMR crowd.

The media actually have a lot to answer for in many of these situations!
In all sorts of ways.

Most of them would Domestic but I haven't denied anywhere that some children do have complications.

Your title said nothing about the Wales outbreak. Not a sausage. It did sound a bit dim though so I thought I would take a look.

It's a bit strange to start threads you apparently don't want responses to.

Grimma, that tends to be the argument but I don't think that should be standing in the way of stopping a spreading epidemic - do you? Do you think worrying 'what will people think' is a good enough reason?

Where did you join Chub? The leaflet was linked to fairly early on iirc. You don't have to hang around if you don't want to :)