MMR DROP IN CLINICS ACROSS WALES TOMORROW - please get yours

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You can turn up to various venues
Ystrad Mynach Hospital
Belle Vue Surgery Newport
Children's Centre, CRI
Children's Centre, llandough

Don't worry if you're not sure If your dc has had booster, you can still attend.

Please protect all our children

I'm pretty sure we covered all this earlier noble when we were talking about the Lemsip analogy...

I need to get an early(ish) night tonight so I'll have to leave you all to it. Good night! :)

I really don't understand this argument at all.

We live in the UK. There is a measles outbreak in the UK. The only vaccine on offer to us is the MMR. It is as safe and any vaccine can be.

We do not live in France. Single vaccine is not an option, so why are people trying to force an option that isn't there?? If people stopped raising the issue then the vaccine rate would surely go up?

I say this is a parent who was medically advised not to have the MMR and was probably one of the last to get them individually on the NHS (fear of contraindications with a genetic disease weirdly). This has not stopped me vaccinating my child with a vaccine that works and has been proven to work. Even if she had had a reaction to the MMR, I would have known that I was taking the best medical care available to protect my daughter. Medicine is not 100% effective, there will always be some level of risk with everything medically you do, but I would be more upset knowing I hadn't vaccinated and she became ill with any of the illnesses we have the ability to try and reduce or eradicate.

Yeah, you didn't explain it then either I think.

It's available in the UK privately Som, so it is an option but unfortunately only for those who can afford it which doesn't really seem fair.

Lots of things are available privately for those who can afford it, the NHS doesn't offer gold teeth either, although some might fancy them.

Or maybe you just didn't like the answer - see post from Wed 24-Apr-13 11:54:58. Second paragraph in particular but I also think it makes sense to know which component you reacted to.

Now I know that you are not trying to say that vaccinating your child against measles during a measkes outbreak is the same as getting a golf tooth noble....are you?

Or a gold one..:)

I know its been said before - and there are 13 pages of your ramblings that I can not be bothered to read through - but it is people like you spouting rubbish that caused this outbreak in the first place. My advice - shut up - lets protect our kids while we still can. Stop talking nonsense and let the government and health authorities do their jobs.

are you not tolerant of evasive flannel, then lucy?

If you read the thread Lucy you might have a clue what you were talking about and your opinion might actually mean something to me. How does suggesting singles as an alternative over getting nothing induce a measles outbreak exactly?

at 'let's protect our kids while we still can' after you've just had a go at someone who suggests that people consider protecting their kids by an alternative method if they aren't happy about the MMR.

I'm suggesting that demanding a single vaccine during a measles outbreak is like having a painful hole in your tooth and complaining that the NHS won't give you a gold tooth but are offering you a perfectly good white one.

And given that most people are fine after the MMR, I'm still not seeing the benefits of giving them separately just so that the few who have a reaction can tell which bit they reacted to (I think from the reaction itself it is possible to tell in some cases anyway).

Bumblymummy - I'm not convinced that singles are safer than MMR when it's the same strain of measles in both.

So why do you keep going on about singles being safer when they cant be??? That makes no sense at all

Noble giraffe - I don't think analogies help bumblymummy. She gets confused and goes off in different directions.

Bumblymummy - I don't think it's very nice to be rude to Lucy for not reading the thread when some of us have been reading the thread for days and not been able to get a straight answers from you :-)

I can't see anywhere where bumblymummy says that singles are either safer or less safe, so perhaps someone could point to the specific post? What I see her asking for is that those who for whatever reason don't want the MMR are given the option of a single vaccine. It used to be the policy until the MMR came in that if you didn't want something you could opt out - it wasn't all or nothing.

Where would people like the extra money for the single vaccines (and associated extra appointments) to come from?

The same place that they got the money before. Why would you need extra appointments? Are you saying that a singles vaccine needs more doses to be effective? I have not heard that said anywhere.

Because the children would need 6 injections, not 2?

Do you need 6 injections against measles?

So you're suggesting that the NHS should abandon its vaccination plan and allow people to pick just the vaccine they fancy right now because there's an outbreak and screw the rest?

And by screw the rest, I mean not only screw the rest of the vaccines, but screw the rest of the population who might benefit from a mass vaccination programme by the eradication or near eradication of these diseases?

The suggestions are yours noblegiraffe. If they want a measles vaccine I can't see why they can't have it. How is that 'screw the rest'?

The present policy is screw the rest - if for some reason you don't want MMR or can't have MMR then your choice is b*gger all, unless you find somewhere to go privately. That I call screw the rest policy, or blackmail.