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MaryAnnSingleton · 29/03/2013 18:35

new thread !!!

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jchocchip · 07/04/2013 07:28

I'm going to contact the social workers - they have not been active lately but this does need sorting. They arrived at 7.15 today so I didn't even get the opportunity of making her breakfast...

Gigondas · 07/04/2013 08:01

That's pants about care workers jchoc. I agree a call to sw in order.

Topsy- It is Arne Dahl- the blind men. Vg (watched half and will watch rest tonight). Reminded me a bit of that thing with Helen mirren in as had strong female lead.

Poor dd friend- also if it is break wouldn't nurofen also help? I suppose it is hard to fix something like shoulder as nothing to anchor.

Mas -dinner sounds nice. Are boys home today?
Pyjama day sounds excellent idea pen. I know what you mean about it being deceptively warm. I had to argue with big gig that it wasn't warm enough for paddling pool yet Hmm.

Had distributed night (ended up taking usual amount of painkillers which was trying to cut)- was stiff leg and hip rather than neck so trying to work out what I did yesterday that set it off. Probably cleaning up so there is a moral in there somewhere...

Will be quiet day today Pottering at home

MaryAnnSingleton · 07/04/2013 09:19

oh poor little thing with broken shoulder Sad
It must be v stressful jane worrying about your mum and her care...hope things can be sorted.
Slept really badly- forgot to take my meds until about 11.30,they're meant to be after food -dh normally reminds me -he'll be v cross. Took them as soon as I did remember - how stupid. They are back today- probably early evening,staying to have lunch with MIL.

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sandripples · 07/04/2013 09:41

Ouch for broken shoulder!

Sorry about broken nights, Gig's pains and MAS forgetting meds - I do tend to forget mine now and again - feels so stupid when its meant to be every single night so how do I forget? It happens when I'm tired and just fall into bed.

Watched the Scandi-crime - yes good although must admit my fave scandi of all remains Borgen. I liked the scandi aspect without the nasty bits!!

Copt - I'd love to go to that exhibition and your description makes me want to go even more!

Planted more seeds yesterday - just nasturtiums. No room left in DD's room for any more now.

Going to see friend with pneumonia today - we'll stay at least 6 ft apart tho!

jchocchip · 07/04/2013 10:14

:( about disturbed night gig and mas forgetting meds is easy, don't be too hard on yourself.

I've not brought my tamox with me, but decided not to stress it, only two nights and I'll be home tonight.

Aargh. been trying to sort mums filing and find her cards. Did find receipt that shows MP has been shopping for Mum!!! Which mum had mentioned and I didn't quite believe. Aargh just makes us look inadequate. There is food in, honest. And milk delivered daily. Mum can't get to kitchen to see that carers are telling porkies. The regular carers know which cupboards to look in and their way around freezer.

Off to Waitrose to stock up on mini meals. On push bike, no buses on Sunday round here.

Envy of seed planting. A nice day potting up is just what I could do with.
Hey ho at least dinner is in the oven and I can come back to Lamb casserole!

topsyturner · 07/04/2013 10:15

Morning !

No falls out of bed last night , I'm sure you'll be glad to know !

Watched half of Scandy Crime last night , thanks for tip off . It's quite good isn't it ?

DDs friend is only allowed calpol as apparently nurofen is now contra indicated for broken bones .
Slows the healing .
Who knew ???

Jane unfortunately you need to be a bit of a moaner (and sometimes a shouter) in this situation .
Social services and the care agency need to be barked at to get their act together !

Grrr for bad nights Gigs
Hope today is better for you .
Is it tomorrow that you are back in hospital ?

Mas shall I tell you off ?
That way you won't have to tell DH that you forgot to take your meds ...

Snorting at the thought of Giant Hooligan Puppy "interfering" with the nudists GrinGrinGrin

AshokanFarewell · 07/04/2013 10:43

Hello everyone,

My skin is healing up, yippee! Bit worse today and had a rather disturbed night after a meal out last night, obviously ate something that disagreed but I can't work out what as I ate things I eat safely at home Confused still was lovely to go out and feel almost normal apart from two loooong loo visits Blush it was with my aunt and uncle so hopefully they understand.

Anyway the magic cream combo is a layer of metanium and then a layer of vaseline if anyone ever needs a magic bum cream! :)

Soooo many posts since yesterday so I'm not quite sure where to start...

ned thank you! I still have links with my old primary school through church and things so I'm hoping to get some work experience there maybe in September as I'll hopefully be in better health by then! I did a week there about six years ago now, I can't believe how long it has been, in reception/year 1 and loved it. I do think that is the age group I will want to teach but it would be good to get experience of other groups too just n case, I'm thinking about possibly doing an early years PGCE as my uni offers one, but not really sure yet! Lots of research to be done first :)

jane sorry about your mum and the careers, I hope the social worker is able to sort it out quickly :( and sorry that she didn't recognise you straight away, that must be very hard.

topsy yay for new room! I hope you didn't fall out of bed last night! :) did you find a good shoe storage arrangement? I have an extending shoe rack from Argos which is pretty good - holds loads of shoes and it's not even fully extended at the mo.

MAS glad you've got a bit more info about your friend, if she has decided against surgery do you think she would also decide against chemo and radiotherapy if they were offered? It must be a very hard decision so I is good that she has you to support her :) grr that her mum sounds rather crap!

gigs sorry you had a rubbish night, cleaning is definitely dangerous! I hope you're feeling more comfortable again soon. And I'm with big gig. I still get the paddling pool feeling when it gets sunny like this Blush Grin

Good news is that I found a winter coat in an online sale and ordered it after ages of thinking I need a nice winter coat instead of my kagoule and so now it is probably going to be about 25 deg every day until October!! Grin

sand have a lovely time with your friend, I hope you manage to avoid any infection! :)

Sorry to everyone I've missed, my post as getting very long and rambly. I hope everyone is having a good day so far :)

coorong · 07/04/2013 12:38

ash I'm in the middle of my secondary science PGCE (part way through my second teaching block - so hopefully won't have to have chemo which would stuff things up).
Anyway (back to you) - I enjoyed large parts of my PGCE, but there is a lot of work, mostly paperwork, preparing, assignments etc lessons. So,much so that I usually work most night until 11pm, and all day Sunday. If you have children p, you cannot be a complete parent and I've relying enormously on my DH (who's great). Unfortunately there's little you can do before you start, other than spend time in classrooms interacting with little ones to see how they assimilate stuff, and getting lesson ideas from teachers.
Am in bed listening to the youngest trying to play the recorder (ouch!)

KurriKurri · 07/04/2013 13:11

Afternoon all,

gigs- sorry about rubbish night, hoe you have a better one tonight.

Ouch to broken shoulder topsy - hope little girl is OK, and hasn't been scared off horse riding.

jane - massive sympathies Sad - we went through very similar with my Dad, - care workers turning up at all sorts of times, - impossible to get any kind of routine when you need to feed and get someone to bed etc.
Ours used to turn up either first thing (7 am) and get Dad out of bed and wash him half asleep Hmm, or turn up so late he missed going to the Day Centre because he wasn't washed and dressed.
Definitely phone and demand a bit more organization. (Actually all our care workers were wonderful and it wasn't their fault at all, it lay completely with inept management who would book care workers into two places at once, or give them appointments that were 20 miles apart and not allow travelling time etc etc.)
I hope you get it sorted soon xx

asho - great that your skin is healing, but sorry about disagreeing food - its hard to predict what might upset you, even things you normally ate quite happily can throw you off course on chemo.

I did an early years PGCE (many many moons ago) and thoroughly enjoyed it, - I haven't taught for years, as life took me on other paths, but I often rather regret it, I did enjoy teaching.
I think the work experience is a fab idea, and you have obviously had some experience in that area, - I went into it all rather green and it was a bit of a learning curve!

MAS - missing meds is so easy to do, -I am sure chemo makes you more forgetful, - my DS drew me up a big chart and got me to tick stuff off when I'd taken it! but you didn't miss it, you remembered and I'm sure a few hours won't make very much difference.

Love to all, hoep everyone is having a good day.

am cross that I missed Scandi crime - will have to iplayer it. For some reason I watched Endeavour on ITV3 and half way through realised I'd already seen it and knew what happened Hmm

KurriKurri · 07/04/2013 13:14

Oh meant to say - good luck with your secondayr pGCE coorong, hopefully you can avoid chemo and won't be messed up.
Totally agree with there being a lot of work, - mainly lesson planning and preparing materials etc with primary (not quite so much marking!) Although since I trained and worked I think the paperwork load has increased massively - I'm hopelessly out of touch.

Gigondas · 07/04/2013 15:47

Am doing ok but drugged up a bit again (part of issue was probably went a bit far in dropping the naproxen and the codeine at same time). Issue is more stiffness than nerve pain.

Having lovely afternoon with big gig- whilst mini is at rugby with dh. Cooking nice roast beef, Yorkshire pud, trimmings and bread and butter pudding so will offer leftovers to sauron later.

Big gig is being super cute - has just watched the topcat film and is most taken with it.

Ash- great about skin(and tip is good for mini gig). I found my tummy was very sensitive on chemo.

Gigondas · 07/04/2013 15:55

Kurri-it's on iplayer. Have serious house envy.
Also new endeavour is due to start soon Grin.

graciesmall09 · 07/04/2013 16:15

Waving to you all.

Huge good luck coming your way gigs for tomorrow (it is tomorrow isn't it???). FIL having angioplast tomorrow as well (hopefully as this will be third time lucky for him) for blockages in his legs so you can be op twins Grin.

So pleased to see you back kurri. Hope little old lady dog feeling better.

ash glad your creams are doing what they should and hopefully your upset tummy will settle.

Ouch re; broken shoulder. DS2 wasn't allowed Neurofen when he broke and dislocated his elbow but the hospital gave him Codeine in liquid form which seemed to do the job.

jchoc hope you get the carer situation sorted. Sounds quite worrying.

Been mega busy these last few days so no time to catch up. Back to work tomorrow so preparing for that. Decided to ditch the wig which feels a bit weird so not sure what the reaction will be tomorrow.

KurriKurri · 07/04/2013 16:54

Thanks Gig - I will watch it when I can wrestle DH's laptop off him (mine makes a noise like concorde taking of so is not compatible with iplayer watching!)
Are you in for your op tomorrow? - massive good vibes and love - you will be very much in my thoughts xx

OLDog seems perkier today, her ear is better so she's happier, and she has had a potter in the garden - she likes sniffing flowers (probably just to see if they are worth doing a wee on Grin)

Good luck going back to work gracie, - I'm sure reaction to no wig will be fine, watch out for head tilting and sad face though Grin

Gigondas · 07/04/2013 17:19

Yes I am in tomorrow for embolisation (basically an angioplast of neck) with my op twin gracie fil Wink. Its only a local anaesthetic but I have to be observed overnight . Not sure what reception is like(no net at hospital) . Thanks for all your lovely thoughts- you really do keep me going .

Step 1 - will be rebuilt like six million dollar woman at end of it Wink.

graciesmall09 · 07/04/2013 17:20

Grin at head tilting. I imagine there will be lots of that. Considering I have only heard from about 4 of my colleagues since I have been off (and not once from the colleague who stood and cried at my desk when I was dx) I shall be taken their 'concern' with a pinch of salt.

Gigondas · 07/04/2013 17:35

You will be fine gracie (and good luck on going wig free- will post a hair pic now for you). I just sent an email round via my boss saying why I had been off - only got one teary person and one head tilt email so got off lightly).

notJenkins · 07/04/2013 17:56

I need to do the email to work to let people know why I have been off. I am not sure if I should word it myself or let my boss ( who is a cow ) word it. It may be interesting to see what she comes up with Grin
I had a colleague cry too and she said she would come and visit. She has not.

Good luck tomorrow gigs and gracie will be thinking of you.

Gigondas · 07/04/2013 18:02

I think boss worded it after discussion with me. He is lovely but moving on. My line manager can't bring herself to ring me- I know she is very busy but it is also cos finds hard topic to discuss.

i was surprised how little it bothered me apart from an inner eye roll or mentally thinking"this isn't about how your fil, dm etc was ill." The nice thing was a Couple of people were surprisingly brilliant and sympathetic .

coorong · 07/04/2013 18:34

I think you can go either way with telling work colleagues - keep it a secret or take control (well that's my philosophy). I think if your"own" your health then you are more in control. So you say something like ", I've been off for treatment for x cancer. It's finished, I'm fit for work and may have the odd appointment, it that s about it really". That's what I did before my op, partly because I dislike they way some people start appropriating your condition to get attention themselves and partly to demystify the whole cancer thing. I been doing my PGCE at high school and didn't mention it to the students because any one of the could have lost parent / sibling to cancer. I think that's the point of sensitivity, the vpfactmthat your own health may trigger bad memories for them.
You could also do what TV miranda's mother does and do the loud / soft thing "I've what I call "cancer", and its caused what call my "hair" to fall out"..... Then stare blankely and do your own head tilt.

topsyturner · 07/04/2013 18:41

Good luck for tomorrow Gracie
I would def go wig less , it will give the head tilters something to stare pointedly at Grin

Gigs what time are you in tomorrow ? Crack of sparrow fart I guess ?
But no wifi ?????
That's gotta be against your basic Human Rights ...
Hope you get a good nights sleep , and don't forget to pack your sexiest onesie nighty to impress the handsome docs !

notJenkins · 07/04/2013 18:45

Love the Miranda thing !

I am going to get my horrible boss to send an email to the whole office as I don't want questions about the scar. I will be having ongoing scans that require 4 weeks off my thyroid meds so may need some time off for that too in the summer. My close colleagues know and some have been incredibly supportive but a couple that I thought would be really have not. Sorts out who your friends are I guess.

I am hoping to be back at work in about 3 weeks and hope I will get a gradual return and so at least a couple of weeks part time. I can't afford to drop to half pay and with the scan in the summer I will be getting close to that.

Copthallresident · 07/04/2013 19:04

Just popping in, having computer problems as have managed to click on something that makes Mumsnet open in Lilliputian font in Windows 8 and only just found a way back out of Windows 8 to Internet Explorer and may not manage to do it ever again .... DON'T GET WINDOWS 8, it is SHIT.

Gracie Have fun going wigless, friends and I had competition to find silliest response when we said "It is great, you are right, why don't you get yours cut short?"

gigs Lots of good vibes for tomorrow, will be thinking of you.

Waves to everyone and will put some of my Proper Yorkshire Yorkshire Pudding on trolley when it comes out of the over. DH bought half a steer at the butchers so there will be plenty left over....................

Gigondas · 07/04/2013 19:34

GrinAt copthall and coorong idea on
Hair ideas but I was up front as you suggested coorong.

Pen- am sure you will get phased return As cancer is a protected condition.

Topsy- I am saving the cheetah print onesie for op proper Grin. And yes it is against human rights to have no wireless.

Right off to have stinky cheese to feed up before fast- got to be there for 7.30 so hoping am on early so can eat and relax.

jchocchip · 07/04/2013 19:38

My new laptop has windows 8, I installed chrome - first thing I did - and mumsnet looks just the same as elsewhere...

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