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Question about the Edinburgh PND test.

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pie · 18/01/2004 17:18

After treatment is your score supposed to come down a lot? If your score remains high what does that mean?

I was at 28 in October and am now 24.

How do the health professionals use the scores?

TIA

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sb34 · 18/01/2004 17:22

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pie · 18/01/2004 17:24

Hi sb34, I had my medication increased last week, so I guess that was what she 'said' other than that nothing, go back in a few weeks to see how I'm 'getting on'.

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sb34 · 18/01/2004 17:30

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pie · 18/01/2004 17:36

Thank you.

Yes there are now 4 of us in one bedroom.

The thing is I was on antidepressants when I got pregnant, quite a high dose, and had been for 3 years. I stopped them because of the pregnancy and went back after the birth, but was depressed in between. So I'm not even sure I should be taking the PND test iywim? I'm not sure if its PND or Clinical Depression, I know the end result is the same, but I'm not sure the treatment is.

The local counselling service won't take me on after I made a complaint about one of the therapists.

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sb34 · 18/01/2004 17:45

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pie · 18/01/2004 17:51

It was about 2.5 years ago, I couldn't get anyone to have DD1 so I took her with me, we were in the middle of potty training. She needed the loo, so I took her, then asked her to wash her hands and she went into MELT DOWN screaming crying, 'I don't want to wash my hands' the usual 2 year old sort of thing. I went back into the therapists room (DD1 all teary eyed and sulking) and she looked me straight in the eye and said

T:Did you just hit your daughter?

Me:I beg your pardon?

T:Children don't cry like that unless their scared. She sounded scared, did you hit her?

Me:No! She had a tantrum as I asked her to do something she didn't want to do.

Tpointing at DD1)That is a scared child, happy children don't look like that.

Me:I didn't lay a finger on her.

T:I think you need to be more honest with yourself.

Me: Bye!!

So I complained and asked for a different therapist in the practice, I didn't go into details just said I wasn't comfortable being treated by here...some crap about my problems being social not psychiatric and they didn't think that I was open to treatment so they were discharging me.

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sb34 · 18/01/2004 18:01

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WideWebWitch · 18/01/2004 18:40

Oh pie, sorry you're still feeling bad. But 24 is lower isn't it so isn't that good? Ish? Agree re outrageousness of therapists, sounds like normal 2.5 yo behaviour.

Carla · 18/01/2004 22:54

I'm sorry - that's unforgiveable. Report her. Now.

clairabelle · 18/01/2004 22:57

pie that's so bad can your GP put you in touch with anyone else?

Carla · 18/01/2004 22:58

Tell you tomorrow about my Edinburgh PND test!!!

JJ · 19/01/2004 07:00

Pie, that's awful! If you're up to it, you should report the lot of them. Being denied services because you asked to change therapists is simply insane.

I completely understand about the tantrums. What kind of person doesn't know that 2 year olds are at a prime age for tantrums? Has she never heard of "terrible twos". Argh.

I think if your score stays high, you're still depressed? Hope the ADs kick in a bit more.

aloha · 19/01/2004 07:33

That's absolutely outrageous Pie! When I read that I literally gasped and my jaw dropped. How dare she accuse you like that with no evidence. Did she have any children herself? Sounds like she didn't. I think it merits a complaint in itself.
You do still sound depressed and as far as I know the treatment is the same whatever the cause ie ADs and counselling. I think your GP should press for you to have counselling maybe with another practise - is there nowhere else in W11 area that offers counselling by voluntary counsellors? Your GP should be able to help and maybe the increased dose of ADs will help you soon. I really hope so. You have a lot of external reasons to be depressed -esp your awful housing situation - well apart from your 'disposition'. It would be an unusual person who had the level of illness you have, financial worries, two children in a one bed flat etc etc who didn't feel pretty down about it a lot. I hope you feel better soon though.

Kittypickle · 19/01/2004 11:33

I totally agree that the therapy centre have behaved extremely badly - I think you reacted very well, I'd have shouted at her. The Edinburgh scale is very similar to something called the Becks Depression Index, which is used to evaluate people for depression. I'm not an expert but I think Aloha is right, whatever the root cause of your depression, treatment is the same. With the Edinburgh scale I think they use 12 as the cut off point. I think your score of 24 means that you are still depressed but heading in the right direction as you were 28 the previous time. Hopefully it will reduce when your increased dose of ADs take effect. I know your last experience of counselling has probably totally put you off the whole thing, but if you feel you could face it I would go back to your GP and ask to be referred somewhere else.

I really hope you start feeling much better very soon.

Batters · 19/01/2004 13:35

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maddysmummy · 27/01/2004 21:48

Hi,
I've started a Yahoo Group called Edinburgh Mums and want to get it off to a good start with lots of mums so we can chat and meet up. You can join at groups.yahoo.com/group/Edinburgh_Mums/ It's great because once you join you can post a message by simply sending an e-mail to [email protected] and everyone in the group gets sent the same email so no-one misses out! I hope to hear from all you Edinburgh (or nearby) mumsnetters soon!
Trudi

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pie · 27/01/2004 21:52

Well somebody read the thread!

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pie · 27/01/2004 21:56

Actually I thought I had posted here. The therapist in question had a few complaints made about her (including a woman at my M&T group who whilst her 2 year old son sat on her lap was told she should have had an abortion). But the powers that be took the view that as she near retirement that they wouldn't do anything. Plus she was somesort of 'expert' who had written books. Thankfully she's not torturing anyone else anymore.

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pie · 27/01/2004 22:01

Ha! now I'm sitting here getting miffed that someone advertised on this thread, not even bothering to check what it was about.

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susanmt · 28/01/2004 00:56

awww pie (((((hugs))))
I scored 30 this week!!! Beat you !!
(only I can get away with saying this I reckon!)

Hope you are feeling better - falling scores over several weeks are good.

Your previous therapist - words fail me!! After the fabulous therapy I have had in the past (we'll draw a veil over the current wrangling over my treatment) I can't imagine what something like that would do to my coping mechanisms when I am feeling like I am now.

Take care, (hugs) from me again.

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pie · 28/01/2004 06:44

lol at the score susan

Hugs right back at you honey ((()))

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pie · 28/01/2004 07:34

umm...just re-read that I'm not laughing at your score iykwim

Just in case!

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susanmt · 28/01/2004 23:31

pie
Now I have my new tablets (well, tomorrow) they are going to score me weeekly. I will know the blooming thing off by heart!

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