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pg and have just been ill again , Im such a mess , anyone had tracheitis?????

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melsy · 31/03/2006 09:46

Im at the end of my tether both with dd and myself, Im recovering from tracheitis which I contracted after laryngitis a couple of weeks. My voice is shot to bits , as the infection is in my wind pipe and Ive read this illness is like an adult version of croup, as the cough is hideously nasty and painful. The gp who diagnosed it said it could last for weeks and theres nothing at all I can take.Ive barely slept or eaten. Ive lost 3lbs and Im 21wks pg.
Im having problems with dd who wont go to bed and then wakes at 6am,(but thats another thread altogether). My mums helped as much as she can,which has meant I can sleep, but the days at home when no ones here with dd are so long and diffcult when I can barely stay awake and have no energy at all. Last night was the 1st night I fell asleep straight away , but within the hour I was awake again coughing and coughing. Ive been ill like this on and off for weeks and weeks and weeks and Ive HAD ENOUGH, its making me very low and I cant stop blubbering. I just dont know what to do to help myself recover.Any ideas what I can have being preggy tp help my constitution , apart from homepathic remedies, as cant really pay for a practioner to check me out right now.

I also have the sorest cracked red nose from blowing and blowing as Im vvv badly blocked up. Anyone have any good creams I can use there,as its right at the nostrel , aveeno is stinging, and I assume savlon or germolene are no good near the nose or being pg?????

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ItalianJob · 31/03/2006 09:51

oh yuck, poor you. did GP say it was a viral infection? i think he's right - that they can't give you more than the very mildest ineffective cough medicines when PG. I really do sympathise with how miserable a lingering bug can make you- I've had a cough/cold for the last month, and have felt incredibly wretched at times.

In terms of cream - I wouldn't worry at all about savlon or germolene whilst PG. I would probably go for vasoline.

(formerly MTS)

EnidVonTeese · 31/03/2006 09:52

you poor poor thing I really feel for you

I had a terrible flu and cough at christmas when I was about as pg as you and I STILL have the cough although it is nowhere near as bad.

if you have an infection you CAN take some antibiotics OR you can eat raw garlic on toast (thanks suzywong!) every night for a week - ok you might stink but it is an amazing way of getting rid of infections.

Do you steam? Do you cough anything up? Are you congested? Do you prop up your bed head?

EnidVonTeese · 31/03/2006 09:53

(btw, codeine is safe to take occasionally in pg AND it can suppress the cough reflex - so try and get hold of some co-codamol and see if that makes a difference)

sorry yes meant to say if it is a BACTERIAL infection you can take antibs

EnidVonTeese · 31/03/2006 09:54

oh and this is fab news Grin

\link{http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/301104chocolatecough.html\chocolate helps coughs!}

foxinsocks · 31/03/2006 09:55

I don't know what your money situation is like but is there any way you can pay for some help during the day? Perhaps someone else's au pair or nanny? just to give you a break...

melsy · 31/03/2006 10:05

thanx everyone

hope I can find my vaseline!!

Wow thats a long staying couhg, gp did say I could have mine for 6 weeks or so .Yes enid have been coughing up stuff (YUCKKKKK) , have been steaminng with menthol , as its the only thing that temporarily clears my nose, for about 15mins ! Ive got 4 pillows and try to sleep up right , but ealry hrs Ive been coming down as sleeping upright on the sofa is more comfortable for some reason.

can take co didamols or anything similar as have allergys to some ingredients. but I will open the chocolate link once I find were dd has gone in the house oooops.

Think I need to chat wih dh about some home help for a few days, a friend of family used to come here when I was working and I paid her hrly , but shes working at a nursury now Sad. Ive booked a doula for post natal period , I really want her now , but shes away for a month and its quite expensive.

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ItalianJob · 31/03/2006 10:06

I find that spicy foods, and fruit teas also help a little bit at clearing your nose.

ItalianJob · 31/03/2006 10:07

Oh and hot water with honey and lemon for your cough/throat.

melsy · 31/03/2006 10:11

meant to be cant to the drugs mentioned

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foxinsocks · 31/03/2006 10:11

you poor thing, definitely have a chat with dh about help (perhaps your friend knows someone else who could help?)

One of my ex-boyfriends had tracheitis and the only thing that seemed to make him better was rest. He was a v tough bloke who was never ill and tracheitis almost had him in tears so I hate to think how you are suffering being pregnant aswell.

melsy · 31/03/2006 10:13

spicy foods and anything acidic are nasty for tracheitis, as its very painful on the windpipe, thats why Im having probs, cant have any oranges which wouod be a great vit c boost, but thhanx italianjob for helping me.

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EnidVonTeese · 31/03/2006 10:15

try and drink plenty of water melsy to thin out the mucus

its a bummer as you get more mucoid/congested when you are pg anyway Sad

melsy · 31/03/2006 10:20

Im non stop crying fox , right now even!! What is about talking with people and not feling so alone makes you cry??

The other worry is IM very very giddy , Ive been given ranitadine becaiuse the inflamation has brought on acid reflux , not sure if its that , or if my bp has dropped suddnelt again this week. I just canr face getting to gp again today. MIght have to call my poor mum.

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foxinsocks · 31/03/2006 10:26

call your mum you poor thing - if she's the helpful sort, I'm sure she won't mind

EnidVonTeese · 31/03/2006 10:27

do you have that horrible thing where you cough and bring up loads of acid Sad?

I still have that it is horrible

sitting up really helps and tbh milk helps although I know not good for the mucus

melsy · 31/03/2006 10:40

yer was bringing up burning acid , was soooo soo nasty I cant tell you , thats when I got the ranitadine form gp , I couodnt cope with that to.

I keep fancying chocolate milkshake and cheese , and avoided it due to its mucus increasing.

just phoned my mum, shes busy all day today, as is my sister too. I really dont know how Ill get through today.

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melsy · 31/03/2006 11:03

Shame enid , your chocolate link isnt working.

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EnidVonTeese · 31/03/2006 11:04

from the BUPA website:

Hot topic - Coughing? Take some chocolate
30 November 2004 - written by BUPA's Health information team

An ingredient found in chocolate may be a more effective remedy than current medicines for persistent coughs, according to a new study in the November 2004 edition of The FASEB (Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology) Journal.1

What did the study show?
The study showed that an ingredient of chocolate called theobromine was more effective at stopping persistent coughs than the leading cough medicine codeine.1

What causes a cough?
A cough may be caused by a common cold or flu. This is because the throat and upper airways become reddened and swollen. The brain thinks that this swelling is an object in the throat and tries to remove it by coughing. Coughs caused by a cold or flu usually clear up quite quickly.2

What is a persistent cough?
A persistent cough is one that does not get better after more than two weeks. Sometimes, you may recover from a cold or flu but a cough lasts for longer.

Persistent coughing can be a symptom of other conditions, such as:

asthma
bronchitis
smoking
whooping cough
lung cancer
heart failure
pulmonary embolism (blood clot in the lung)
pneumonia
tuberculosis (TB)
How are coughs treated?
Cough medicines seem to work for some people, but there is still debate about if they are necessary or not.

There are different cough medicines for different types of coughs. Simple cough medicines line the throat and ease the irritation that causes coughing. They are generally safe.2

Codeine is a pain-relieving medicine that is used to treat severe coughs. It comes in the form of a tablet, liquid or injection.3

How was the study carried out?
Ten healthy volunteers were given theobromine, codeine or a placebo at different times. A placebo is a substance that doesn't contain any medication. The volunteers did not know which of the three options they were taking.

The volunteers were then asked to inhale a substance called capsaicin.

What is capsaicin?
Capsaicin is a substance that comes from capsicum (American pepper plants). It irritates the membranes that line all body passages that are in contact with air, such as the windpipe. Capsaicin is used in science research to cause coughing.1,4

How did researchers compare the effect of theobromine with codeine and placebo?
The researchers measured the levels of capsaicin needed to make the volunteers cough. Volunteers took either theobromine, codeine or placebo. They then took capsaicin to find out how much they needed before they started coughing.1

What did the levels of capsaicin show?
Volunteers needed to take more capsaicin after theobromine than after codeine or placebo.

The level of capsaicin needed to cause coughing was about one third higher in the volunteers who had been given theobromine compared with placebo.

Those who were given codeine only needed slightly higher levels of capsaicin than those given the placebo to cause a cough.1

Did theobromine have side-effects?
No. The volunteers who took theobromine had none of the side-effects normally caused by other cough medicines.

What side-effects do other cough medicines have?
The majority of cough medicines have very few side effects. Codeine and cough medicines that contain antihistamines may cause drowsiness, constipation, difficulty passing urine, dry mouth or blurred vision.2,3

Check with your GP or pharmacist before taking cough medicines. People with diabetes should avoid cough medicines that are sugar based.

Why is theobromine better than other cough medicines?
If research confirms that theobromine does not cause drowsiness, then there may be no limits on when theobromine can be taken. For example, people who take codeine must make sure their reactions are normal before driving or carrying out any jobs that need them to be fully alert, since codeine may cause drowsiness.

The researchers suggest that the lack of side-effects may mean that theobromine could be given at higher doses than other cough medicines.1

How much theobromine did volunteers take?
The volunteers were given a dose of theobromine that was equal to the amount of the ingredient found in a 50g bar of dark chocolate or two cups of cocoa.1

Why does theobromine put a stop to coughing?
Theobromine suppresses the activity of the vagus nerve, which causes coughing.1

What did the study conclude?
The researchers concluded that theobromine is a promising new treatment, which may form the basis for a new type of medicines that can relieve or prevent coughing. More research is needed to fully understand these findings.1

Should I eat chocolate if I have a cough?
According to this study, theobromine, which is a key ingredient found in chocolate, may be effective at stopping persistent coughs.

This was a very small study and more research is needed to fully understand the findings. If you have a persistent cough, you should speak to your doctor before switching your cough medicine for chocolate.1

What can I do to help relieve a cough?
sip hot honey and lemon drinks
don't smoke and avoid smoky places
use extra pillows at night to raise your head
inhale steam, eg from a bowl of hot (but not boiling) water
take a hot bath or shower to expose your chest to steam

EnidVonTeese · 31/03/2006 11:05

to cut a long story short, a 50g bar of dark choc (I 'use' green and blacks dark) is more effective at stopping coughing than codeine.

melsy · 31/03/2006 11:10

mmmmmmmmmmmm now I have a good reason for dh to get me something yummy this weekend. For the time being I may have some valrona from his cooking cupboard I can have.

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melsy · 31/03/2006 18:49

see I must be ill , couldnt even face the chocolate. Had a rubbish day , although dd did go to bed for nap , 1st time in 3 weeks, so I did to , but the bleedin phone didnt stop. DH spent all day trying to get hold of mil to help , but of course she wasnt around either and finally phoned at 4:30 , worrying as to the state of my social life FFS, is she not of this planet ???? "you mean you havent been out at all since last week" errrrrrrrrr no Ive been very poorly. What gives ???

dreading bed time , as now dd in a bed she kicks up stink not wanting to go to bed for an hour. Illness has made me lose patients with her big time.

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melsy · 01/04/2006 19:28

Anyone have ideas what I could take to build mysel up again????. This seems to be so draining, all I want to do is sleep. I kinow some of it could be the pg , but I find it hard to do anything, this is one virile illness.

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stleger · 01/04/2006 23:08

I've had it 4 weeks now but it is subsiding. I've never met anyone else who gets it! I'm knackered, as dh has been away most of the month but my kids have been pretty good. I do find soft centred chocolates good! They don't build you up though. Take care of yourself, do the minimum housework (!) Are you using an inhaler? I'm burning a mix of geranium and eucalyptus oils.

melsy · 02/04/2006 09:22

hi stleger, thought no one would come in here now. When you say inhaler , do you mean a steam bowl? Ive got geranium , but Im really not sure wether I can use it pg ,I wish there was a concise list of which essential oils we can use pg, if any I suppose.

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stleger · 02/04/2006 12:25

I have it in a burner with a candle thingy. I tried to get an electric job that kind of puffs out oil in steam - somebody told me it is called a vapouriser, like karvol. But I can't get a puffing one! I never had this when pregnant, but I had it when my youngest was newborn. The cough exercises the pelvic floor, and not in a good way. I think the exhaustion is due to lack of sleep. Take care of yourself.