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geographic tounge

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wonderingwendy · 25/08/2012 16:46

why do i keep getting this - it drives me nuts
does anyone else get this - a link here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_tongue

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aimingforthesky · 25/08/2012 17:09

Hi. Yes I do -dentist told me years ago but never bothers me really- no pain or anything. Just looks interesting with new cracks and crevices every now and then

wonderingwendy · 25/08/2012 17:25

mine hurts like its burnt it on hot tea ,it happens so often every few weeks ,im wondering maybe its something im eating or not eating that causes it?

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HiHowAreYou · 25/08/2012 17:54

I have this, with the stinging pain. My tongue most commonly reacts to tomato, citrus, acidic things.

Mine seems better since I found out I had anaemia actually, and started taking iron. Might be worth looking into?

fridayfreedom · 25/08/2012 17:56

I get it too, GP and dentist not concerned. Looks wierd at times and sometimes sore where it rubs on my molars. comes and goes, haven't identified why it starts.

PuppyMonkey · 25/08/2012 18:02

I get it to. Totally random, not linked to any particular thing I eat I'm quite sure. Mine gets sore sometimes, but otherwise it's not a problem.

nightcat · 25/08/2012 18:40

OP, I have seen this mentioned frequently on gluten free forum as linked to coeliac/gluten, one of the many symptoms that are associated with inflammation and malabsorption, possibly even autoimmune or connected to yeast-overgrowth.

wonderingwendy · 25/08/2012 18:55

its funny you say that because although not being diagnosed my tummy cant handle bread (pain,the runs) so i eat gluten free stuff but lately i have been eating it again because i didnt have any gluten free ,so yes that ties in

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moosemama · 26/08/2012 14:47

My dh and ds1 have this. Ds1 is gluten free. He tested negative for coeliacs via bloods but has recorded severe reactions to gluten via a food/digestive diary we did with his paed and dietician, so they advised us to keep him gluten free from then on.

Dh has never been tested for coeliacs and can tolerate small amounts of some wheat based products, but has severe IBS and can't eat certain things, like pizza for example.

Dh's GP told him that it is likely to be worse when he is run down or something triggers an immune reaction (he has mild asthma with allergy triggers and there does seem to be some correlation between the two).

HappyCamel · 26/08/2012 14:55

Get some Nystan from your GP. You probably have oral thrush. It
is very common if you have geographic tongue.

HappyCamel · 26/08/2012 14:56

Oh and, yes, its an autoimmune condition so people who have it often also have coeliac or diabetes but not necessarily so.

bonzo77 · 26/08/2012 15:13

As a dentist I was always told in training that geographic tongue is a variation on normal anatomy, there is no known cause, no treatment indicated per se. But that if it was causing problems it is always worth investigating for the following:

  1. Haematinic deficiency (iron, folate, B12).
  2. Autoimmune disorders of the gastro intestinal system.

If these are not relevent, I would suggest the obvious, i.e. avoiding things that irritate it, good oral hygiene and an alcohol - free mouthwash (or hot salt water is also good).

A food and symptom diary is always a good place to start. I would also include your menstrual cycle in your data.

It is not associated with oral thrush. But just because you have geographic tongue does not mean you don't have oral thrush though, IYSWIM. Oral thrush is massively over diagnosed. In 11 years of practice I have not seen a single case. It is more likely to be seen in immunocompromised patients (think AIDS, leukaemia, chemotherapy), the very young infant (who I rarely see anyway), and the very elderly (I see lots and lots of these). The characteristic appearance is of a white cottage cheese - like lesion which can be scraped off (eg. with a finger nail or appropriate instrument) and leaves a raw bleeding surface. If you cannot scrape it off (like with the lighter parts of geographic tongue) or it doesn't bleed when scraped (like the white film you get with certain toothpastes) then it almost certainly is not thrush. There are other kinds of oral fungal infection, mostly painless. One is a condition only really seen in severe immuno compromise (mainly AIDS) and another only under dental appliance (dentures, orthodontic retainers, and cleft obturators) that are not kept clean enough, which are very distinctive.

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