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ouch. really really ouch....something really trivial is hurting me and affecting everything

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VicarGoingForGoldInKungFu · 07/08/2012 19:38

this sounds so trivial, but after having verrucas for 5 years i have gone to a private podiatrist. i have a total of

28
of
the
little
fuckers

but i have 1 very very huge.one the fleshy part of my foot, and he is treating with a very strong acid paste which i have to leave on with a dressing for 5 days before it gets done again on day 6 or 7.

ive been off work, so its not been too bad, but i went and had the treatment again last night and then had to work today......and i am in absolute proper bloody excrutiating pain - my foot is swollen and throbbing, it feels like i am walking on razor blades. its so so so sore and the patch that is being treated is about the size of a two pound coin so its quite large and so very very sore.
i am limping, and today my sgt asked why im limping.
it feels so so silly to say its 'cos of a verruca, but it is, or rather the treatment of one.
the pain is so bad that were it anything else i think i would have thought twice about going in tomorrow - i can hardly walk, but i cant phone in sick and cite a verruca. its just not an option.
ive taken pain killers, i have to wear my boots and socks (if i could wear sandals it wouldnt be so bad!) but the job is in uniform and i have wear the clobber.

how does anyone have this type of treatment and continue about their daily business?
with shoes on?
seriously. its hurting just in case i ve not gotten that message through in the above whinge.....
Sad

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gingeroots · 10/08/2012 19:51

Update needed .

Hoping vicar not based anywhere near New Addington . Sad

Fluffycloudland77 · 10/08/2012 22:28

Ok, I looked at the photo. (on hol I fecking wish lol)

That is a big area to put acid on but I wasnt there and you're not my patient.

The black is the silver nitrate oxidising on your skin. Totally normal. Not harmful)

The white area is an acid burn, you can cut the white area off with a scalper (I mean me not you) and it doesnt usually hurt but with you it does which suggests that it's gone quite deep. Is he using Salycilic acid? silver nitrate doesnt usually go white.

I would ask the gp to prescribe Biatain with Ibuprofen infused into it for the practice nurse to dress it with. It will hopefully soothe it.

Dont let anymore acid go on that wound you'll be down to bone.

Soak your foot in warm (not hot) salt water to clean it while you wait for the practice nurse. Dont go putting savlon or tpc or anything like that on it.

You can buy mepore or melolin adhesive dressing to keep it covered, dont worry about padding it, a pad compresses to nothing when your average 9 stone woman stands on it.

Try co-codamol, it's a bit stronger than paracetomol as it has 8mg of codiene in it.

Ask for a ref to the NHS pod as a woundcare patient.

If you are worried about diabetes I think Lloyds pharmacy to random blood sugars. If you went first thing without drinking anything apart from water and having fasted since dinner it should me 4-5mmol.

FrankieMyDearIDontGiveADamn · 10/08/2012 23:04

Vicar

Have you been constantly treating the Verucas with OTC treatments?

I am sorry for the mail link but can't remember where I heard the advice, but once you get the painful ones under control apparently leaving them then to finish their course will 'immunise' your body against them as they are a virus based thing.

article about it

I have NO idea if this is true or if it has been mentioned and obviously you need lots of help for now, but couldn't not post if in the long term, stopping treatment does in fact give the body a chance to heal them.

Hope you are not in so0 much pain soon. x

MrsWajs · 11/08/2012 00:58

The duct tape method?? What is that? I have a verruca in the same place as happyhippychick had hers but don't fancy hacking mine out with a razor blade much :)

VicarGoingForGoldInKungFu · 11/08/2012 03:55

fluffy thank you so much - that is really really helpful and much more helpful than my pod is being - i have leftt 2 messages over the last 2 days - he has replied to neither.

i am paying privately and he cant be arsed.

yes you are right - he is treating this large hole in my foot with both silver nitrate and salycillic acid at 60% strength. He is cutting a dressing so that it has a hole in the middle and pasting the acid into it then taping it in place to stay on for 5 - 6 days. The rest of them he is treating with silver nitrate alone. He does take a scalpel to it each treatment. and yes.....it hurts.

my feet look absolutely dreadful. im falling to bits from the feet up. Now im wearing sandals (very very boingy comfy sandals) its not half as painful as it was. my foot is swollen, the big hole in it still hurts, but not nearly as much, so boots off time was a good plan. Its just hard on my colleagues as i am there but not there - i can only do limited things to assist them while im out of uniform.

i am going to take the dressing off and soak foot as advised. thanks for the help. i will also go to lloyds seeing as my gp isnt remotely interested in testing for diabetes. probably quicker too.
not sure if its related but tonight i went really really dizzy and sick, felt almost as if id had a few too many! am ok now and off to bed as just finished work.

frankie - no, not treated them constantly for 5 years - i have a go at them every now and again but decided to get seen properly by a pod as the large one was getting painful and i seemed to be getting more.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 11/08/2012 08:41

A&E nurse here.

Please go to A&E today. You have a deep chemical burn, signs of infection (pain, swelling, redness) and now you have had an episode of feeling sick and dizzy.

This needs urgent assessment.

gingeroots · 11/08/2012 09:09

I agree with BofW that vicar needs a professional to look at it .

The foot shouldn't be swollen .

Go to minor injuries .

There is nothing to loose , except a little time ,and the thing you will probably gain is getting better more quickly because you will be receiving appropriate treatment .

FannyFifer · 11/08/2012 09:47

Agree with above, please go and get seen, feeling sick and dizzy could certainly be related.

3littlefrogs · 11/08/2012 10:28

I agree with everyone who says go to A&E. You could end up with septicaemia. Please stop trying to be brave and go and get it looked at.

gingeroots · 11/08/2012 21:10

Have just read horrible story ( in DM ! ) about woman who was bitten on hand by dog .
She treated it herself and by time she got medical advice it was too late - she had septacemia and she died .
Bitten on 14 th and dead on 16th .

Tho of course maybe she had underlying condition or the bite punctured something important .

Fluffycloudland77 · 12/08/2012 10:31

Are you ok op?

VicarGoingForGoldInKungFu · 12/08/2012 14:29

yes thanks fluffy im ok. The podiatrist im seeing never did get back to me, but i have another appointment schedule for weds.

i think this treatment went a bit wrong because i was back at work, it does feel much better now.

im staying out of my boots until ive seen the pod and see what he has to say about continuing treatment or not.

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gingeroots · 12/08/2012 14:45

Glad you're feeling better vicar .

Be careful out there Smile

NarkedRaspberry · 12/08/2012 17:19

If you're dealing with someone's feet surely you should ask about what their job entails. If someone's on their (booted) feet all day it's going to make a big difference compared to someone who has a sedentary job.

Fluffycloudland77 · 12/08/2012 21:00

I really wouldnt have any more acid treatments. Salycilic acid will keep on burning as long as its in contact with the skin, silver nitrate stops working after one day so at least it doesnt burn through the skin.

Some pods are a bit gung ho with vp but it doesnt mean it will work.

You can buy silver nitrate pencils and rub the vp down at home with an emery board and then apply the silver nitrate, your not doing much less than we do at clinics really.

Personally I think a holistic stress relief approach works as well as conventional treatments i.e it might work, it might not.

I dont know why but people find it hard to believe that the otc treatments dont work, I had this conversation recently. Yes you have a vp, dont bother treating it. Next thing they said was I'll get some of that stuff from the pharmacy.

VicarGoingForGoldInKungFu · 13/08/2012 12:45

well the pod finally rang back.

im back this PM,, he says he will go easier with the acid.....Hmm im going to show him the photo.

i think im fighting a losing battle anyway.

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NarkedRaspberry · 13/08/2012 13:01

Please don't let him put any more onto that burn.

JugglingWithFiveRings · 13/08/2012 13:23

If it was me I think honestly I'd be going to see someone else after how things went following first treatment. It's your foot !

Fluffycloudland77 · 13/08/2012 18:57

Please tell me he didn't put more acid onto that you'll be seeing the flipping bone soon.

It is well known within the profession that vp are easy money. I won't do them at all, I'm not the only one either.

3littlefrogs · 13/08/2012 19:13

Please take your foot to a hospital. You are going to end up having to see a plastic surgeon at this rate.

VicarGoingForGoldInKungFu · 13/08/2012 19:31

well.

i went back, and he says its exactly as it should be. he tried to tell me that i must have a low pain threshold

i was a bit Hmm and told him that i had didnt so much as have a paracetamol when i had DD and i did not say it felt like walking on razor blades lightly.......Hmm

fucking low pain threshold my arse.

he cut off the damaged tissue (ouch this time) and has said he can no longer distinguish what is verruca and what is damaged tissue - and then he put more acid on it. less this time, but still says its looking ok and as expected.

so ill see how it is tomorrow - if its killing me then i will soak the dressing off in salt water and call it a day.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 13/08/2012 19:41

Ok, good plan.

I've found women usually have much higher pain thresholds than men.

I thought I was a wimp till the physio used acupuncture on me and remarked I didn't flinch at the hand ones or the tweeking.

BlueMoon74 · 13/08/2012 19:48

:( Oh you poor thing! I have nothing but sympathy.

I had a nasty one as a child 30 or so years ago!!!and I still have a huge scar under my big toe, where the huge hole was!

I think you can use it as a valid reason! Take a photo! Or show them! I just remember the pain - and it's 30 years ago!!!! Hope you feel better soon.

stleger · 13/08/2012 20:05

My dd1 had a clump which was called a mosaic wart I think, all joined together. She was treated for months by our gp, with nitrogen and acid; after a conference last year, the gp moved her onto Pickles Ointment which seemed to be the beginning of the end. You might ask the podiatrist if it is worth a go? She had tried the duct tape, banana skins, and rubbing it with a potato which she buried, and homeopathy which I usually try as a last resort!

Fluffycloudland77 · 13/08/2012 20:43

Pickles is salycilic acid.

It's a virus, if your immune system doesnt deal with it then it will stay forever. Like herpes, and chicken pox that lives in the spinal cord for years and comes back as shingles if you get run down enough. If it goes it's usually because you have antibodies to it due to the immune system figuring out it is there, or you've burned or frozen the hell fuck out of your skin.

I cannot tell you how often a patient says their vp went after using xyz and I can still see it plain as day. I dont tell them as it's obviously not bothering them.