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Soya milk

13 replies

Katharine · 09/12/2001 21:31

My 6 week old son is continually sick during and after his bottle. This started straight after he was born - always bottle fed - but doesn't seem to be taken very seriously by any health officials now that he is putting on weight. It must be rotten for him throwing up all the time as well as driving us mad with all the changes of clothes and continual washing. We have seen a homeopath who gave him something to help the colic and did some cranial osteopathy to help his restlessness (doesn't sleep during the day at all and only in my arms at night in our bed). He's our third son and we are obviously exhausted by all of this. The homeopath said that if the sickness doesn't improve by this Wednesday then she would recommend him trying Soya milk. Has anyone tried this and has it worked?

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florenceuk · 09/12/2001 21:42

Have you thought about having your son tested for reflux - where the contents of the stomach come back up into the esophagus - because of the acid, it can make them very unhappy and hard to settle. My niece had reflux, and was much happier after appropriate medication.

robinw · 09/12/2001 22:12

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JJ · 09/12/2001 23:32

Katharine, both of my sons are allergic to cow's milk proteins. The eldest brought up his feeds constantly. He was mainly breastfed, but I wasn't avoiding dairy and when he had the odd bottle, it was regular formula (and the spitting up was much worse).

My youngest has been diagnosed with a dairy allergy also. He's 11 weeks old. His paediatrician and his allegist have told me not to substitute soya formula for the dairy formula as that might create a soya allergy. He's takes Neocate when he has a bottle. It has no proteins-- built from the amino acids up. Get a prescription if you want to try it, it's expensive. There's another one too. Unfortunately, I completely forget the name of it. It's in a (misplaced) letter somewhere and if I find it, I'll let you know.

There are also some proteins in goats' milk similar to those in cows' milk,. Give them a try but if they don't work, try something else.

My eldest son gained weight normally when he was a baby. He didn't sleep well and brought back feeds constantly, but we thought it was normal baby stuff. It was only after two anaphylactic reactions that he was diagnosed with a milk allergy.

If you want some more info, let me know. My advice is to try the milk-free stuff and see how it goes. If it seems to be helping, give it a few weeks and then reintroduce a bottle with a dairy formula. If you get a horrible reaction, you'll know it's an allergy.

Good luck!

tufty · 11/12/2001 21:59

Katherine, whatever you do don't let anyone tell you to ignore your maternal instinct. YOu have to have the courage of your convictions and not feel you have to bow to the professionals.. putting on weight is good but its not the whole story and its not Ok that you and your son have to live with vomiting.( you don't mention nappies but I'd guess his poos aren't great either?) I agree it could be cows milk protein and soya is also likely to cause problems but you can only get the other hypoallergenic formulas on prescription (thank God, they cost the earth!) THere are various diffenert ones but all my children have ended up on Neocate ( even being allergic to breast milk after I went on a total alergen free diet) For what its worth my eldest son "thrived" despite his allergies which noone took seriously until my second son dramatically failed to thrive and was eventually diagnosed as having an immune problem. Even when my third son arrived it took some persuading to get local medics to see that he too is allergic.
On a brighter note once the correct diet was found it made such a differnce. No longer doing 7 loads of washing a day to cope with all the changes of clothes and bedding, more sleep for all and happy boys! Good luck!

caroline18 · 30/05/2003 22:59

I breast fed my daughter 13 weeks, as soon as i stopped and started her on dried milk she starting being sick all the time. Doctors put her on soy milk for 4 months, but health advisor said it put on too much weight and wasnt good for her teeth .Now she is on c & g comfort seems to be ok but dread the experience of trying to get her onto cows milk.

robinw · 31/05/2003 06:39

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Britabroad · 31/05/2003 09:04

I use rice milk enriched with calcium for my DS as suggested over here in NZ.Can you get it in UK?

pupuce · 31/05/2003 17:52

I have said this on another thread and got hammered for it but in France and Switzerland they would suggest Almond milk which you can find in organic health food shops. If you know of peanut allergies in your family than steer clear but - interestingly - this is not a concern French and Swiss doctors have.

SilverUK · 31/05/2003 18:11

I heard that Soy formula is going to be withdrawn because of "oestrogenic effects". See www.biotech-info.net/soya.html
No son of mine would get that! Don't assume its a food problem, many babies spit up and vomit, they're built that way. Both my dds vomit, or did, all the time, mostly breast milk, it's very very annoying but (you'll hate me) it will pass in time, and you'll find you get used to dealing with it, really! without a second thought. I'm reliably informed that I did it too. The older one stopped about one year, except when unwell in any way. We found it helps to handle them with care after a feed, keep carefully upright and don't lay them flat, move around suddenly or rush off in the car. Infacol might help avoid bubbles in the tum which can bring more up with it. My DD2 seems to retch after each burp with predictable results, so less burps=less mess. When dd1 reached 6 months I was so fed up I switched her to no bottles, any way up cups instead, so she had to take rests to let the air back in the cup. It helped.

robinw · 31/05/2003 19:23

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sparkle · 01/06/2003 20:21

My DS had reflux until he could sit up at about 5 months old. He was BF and would bring up lots of each feed although he was thriving and putting on up to a pound a week. He was prescribed Infant Gaviscon and this didn't stop him being sick but did thicken everything up a bit.

He would be really sick not just after feeds but also when we picked him up and laid him down. I would definately see a doctor and check out whether they think it could be reflux.

Boe · 02/06/2003 09:07

I saw a thing on TV about what soya milk did to kids teeth before they even came through - it was shocking and the poor children had to have them all taken out!! I have never touched it and never will.

My daughter stopped drinking milk altogether when she was 7 months - she just refused one day and that was that (think she gets her stubborness from my x2b!!) health professionals said it was ok as long as she ate yoghurts and cheese etc.

My best friend's little boys both had reflux - they threw everything up for about the first 4 months - she was prescribed gaviscon powder to put in their formula - which did help - have you tried changing which brand of formula you feed her?? Is a long shot but may help before you start trying more radical things.

jamsy · 02/06/2003 16:37

Boe - can you remember any more details? I'm giving ds (17 months) SoGood which says it's ok for children over 12 months, and is fortified with all sorts of stuff like calcium and vitamins. However it is quite sweet (for my taste) - should I stick to goats milk? (cow dairy allergy runs in the family.) And he already has 16 teeth so this kind of worries me!

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