suggestions re non menopausal causes of hot flushes

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Have name changed as my old name no longer suits..!
Background details so as not to drip feed.
I'm 42 with a DD of 25 months(still not sleeping through the night) and a DD of 9 months.My DH works nights, our families not helpful.It is exhausting stuff,parenting 2 so small.I am permanently tired.
I've had about 7 really intense hot flushes-to the extent of almost passing out-in the last number of months.
Blood tests have ruled out menopause, thyroid/iron problems etc-all ok.

My question is-can fatigue really make you feel like this?Thank you.

Not sure I always think of hot flushes as hormonal, I had them alot after having my son and with breast feeding. Are you BF? If so then I would put it down to that.
You could research the symptoms of adrenal fatigue, I am not sure if hot flushes are on the list.
Also not to sound negative but the NHS loves telling people that their blood results are 'normal'. This country is very bad at diagnosing thyroid problems, I would always advocate getting a copy of your blood results and then doing your own research to decide what 'normal' is.

BF DD1, couldn't with DD2-tough delivery-lost a litre of blood , had stitches etc etc...
Will look into adrenal fatigue, thank you.

At 42 you're at the right age to be starting perimenopause which blood tests can't diagnose as hormones levels will fluctuate. Hot flushes, night sweats, palpitations etc can come and go for years before actual menopause.
Or if you're breast feeding it could be that as oestrogen levels are lowered.

I second the thyroid suggestion, - I've had the menopause and I've got Graves disease (over active thyroid) - and the flushes are very similar, - very hot and panicky and dripping with sweat.

Weirdly I had underactive thyroid but with hot flushes - def check what your actual tsh level was - you can just phone and ask the receptionist

Weirdly I had underactive thyroid but with hot flushes - def check what your actual tsh level was - you can just phone and ask the receptionist

Seconding mercibucket with the underactive thyroid and hot flushes.

Mine are not hormonal either; GP just says probably side-effects due medication and to increase fluids - are you on any meds?

No meds-how would I know what tsh level would require further investigation?Feel I've been fobbed off by Docs.
Appreciate the advice.

If you ask for your tsh levels, anything over 2 is worth looking into imo, anything over 3 is definitely suspicious. They treat in the US once tsh is at 3. Here they wait til it's at 10 and you feel like you're slowly dying. I don't recommend waiting that long! Depending on the lab, in the UK anything over 4.5 is flagged up to the GP but if you look at a distribution curve, it is clear that most non-sick people have a tsh somewhere under 2. It varies according to time of day and season so if yours is a bit high, pester for another test first thing in the morning and in autumn or winter. Tsh is lowest in spring. If tsh is a bit high, you can also get t4, t3 and antibodies tested. You can also get a private test for about sixty quid.

Ferritin also should not be at the bottom of the 'normal' range but at least over 50. A lot of people feel crap when it's 15-30 especially

If you ask for your tsh levels, anything over 2 is worth looking into imo, anything over 3 is definitely suspicious. They treat in the US once tsh is at 3. Here they wait til it's at 10 and you feel like you're slowly dying. I don't recommend waiting that long! Depending on the lab, in the UK anything over 4.5 is flagged up to the GP but if you look at a distribution curve, it is clear that most non-sick people have a tsh somewhere under 2. It varies according to time of day and season so if yours is a bit high, pester for another test first thing in the morning and in autumn or winter. Tsh is lowest in spring. If tsh is a bit high, you can also get t4, t3 and antibodies tested. You can also get a private test for about sixty quid.

Ferritin also should not be at the bottom of the 'normal' range but at least over 50. A lot of people feel crap when it's 15-30 especially

Hey OP

Jumping on the thyroid bandwagon....

How long ago were you tested? I was tested all through pg and it was low, had another test at 6 week check and thyroid is so high that Im classed as toxic!

I should ae aware of the symptoms, Ive had Graves for 5 years, but I honestly thought that the tiredness, sweating, being a grumpy bitch-troll etc was due to being a mum of 2 DCs.

EBF so only having a third of the dose needed but I feel so much better!

Was tested two weeks ago-armed now with this information you've provided, I'll ring tomorrow and ask for the specifics.Still feel like my age and having 2 babies in the house made it easy to dismiss how tired I feel.
thanks again for the information.

mercibucket do you mind me asking if your hot flushes stopped following treatment for your thyroid?
I have been taking thyroxine (50) for 6 weeks now my initial bloods were T4 6.5 and TSH 35.56. I had been experiencing hot flushes where I just felt as if a switch was flicked and Id be on fire. There not so intense now but the best way I can describe it is I feel as if my face is red and hot all the time. my female hormones were also high Im worried about early menopause (just turned 40)
my ferritin was also low 9 but has been low during the last 4 years and two pregnancies Hope you don't mind me asking but you seem to be well informed.