Vaccines and Scaremongering

[expatinscotland]

Let's just put it this way: I do NOT trust the NHS when it comes to vaccines. These are the people who until last year were allowing jabs w/mercury to be given to 2 month old INFANTS, years after the substance had been banned in many Western countries, in order to save a few bucks.

I'll never know if this was what has caused DD1 to be delayed w/nearly all her motor skills. I had no idea they were still using mercury. I'm from the US, where it's been no longer put into jabs for infants. I just assumed that was a no brainer and the UK had done the same.

These are folks who allowed children to die, for years, of pnuemoccocal meningitis, b/c the vaccine is expensive.

So yesterday I bring DD2 for her 2 month checkup. I'd already understood that Prevenar, the new vaccine, would be out in Scotland sooner than April and I could put off DD2s vaccines for a fortnight until it was out.

Then I get there and they're telling me, 'Well, by the time the Health Ministers bring it out, maybe she'll be eligible for hte catch up programme.'

WTF?! The 'catch up' programme sounds like a load of shite to me. Upon further questioning, they're only going to give under 2s in the catch up programme two uptakes, one w/their MMR. As infants in the US, they get 3. I asked, what if they're under two but have already had their MMR?

Silence.

Seems the brain donors hadn't thought of that.

Sorry, but I smell a RAT. The HV and GP were encouraging me just to go and pay for it privately. Of course they were.

I told them flat out I trusted them about as much as I trusted a three-armed pickpocket and walked out. I mean, these were the ones who gave mercury filled jabs to infants.

Took some time out and composed a nice letter to my MP and MSP.

I'll post their response here when I get it.

TBH, I don't trust the jabs they give to kids here.

The GP tried to frighten me by telling me my daughter would contract pertussis if I waited until Prevenar came out to vaccinate her at all.

How, I asked? DD1 doesn't go to school and is fully immunised. In fact, we hardly go out at all and when we do, it's to play and walk outside.

Yep we're eating less oils- and guess what happens to children who are more suscpetible to that- their membranes become leaky, gut, blood brain barrier - the lot. So suddenly chemicals which shouldn't be crossing barriers are - gluten a big culprit- mercury?? who knows- it;s not in the hair of autistic children where it ought to be.

gbjj, I thought you ment salt, not S.A.L.T. lol
was v v puzzled, whats the new fad about salt, sorry

hmm another v interesting point? how did wakefield suggest that the mecury got from the muscle to the CSF jimjams???

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Its no problem would rather agree to differ than fall out

have a lovely evening JJ!

though I think we are agreed on somethings........Glass of wine anyone??

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indeed jim jams, have a great one cheers!

He doesn't remotely suggest something as stupid as that chapsmum, remember he was a highly respected top of his field gastroenterologist before the smear campaign.

You can download a PP presentation he gave last year here if you scroll down to the bottom. He gives the current state of play as he sees it (last year).

Australia has been giving thimerosal free paediatric jabs since 1999, the US the same time (although they used up their stocks). There was no need for the UK to wait until publication of the Hornig paper before changing. The thimersal free jabs were $1 more expensive though. Nice to know the price of a child's chance to live an independent life.

yes socci, it would have been the mst sensible alternaitve to genetic screening, though there are still risks with vaccines that have no thermisil....
Honestly as a parent you really cant win.

What is this 6 sessions thing? SALT does it differently. If you can be fixed in 6 sessions you get it, if it can't forget it. DS1 gets SALT now by via a SALT employed by education.

Think yourself lucky chapsmum that you didn't immediately understand what SALT stood for.

Cheers Fio- I need it.

jimjams agian please dont be so agressive, I did not mean that that was a stupid suggestion, But I do know that the measles virus was found in the csf of some autistic children. I was presuming that he had a thory about how it got their in relation the the mmr.
It was a guenuine question.

Oh well read the link, it's all there.

I don't think I've been aggressive, but tbh I'm done.

6 sessions and she was released. whilst expat madly researched some exercises to do w/her and squeezed in some physio time at home. she still has a 'wide gait', but they can't find anything genetically amiss so she's presumed NT.

the wait list for SALT is a crying shame. but again, they must spend more of the sessions w/a magic wand out b/c they're all cured after 6.

did someone say wine??!

re-read your post, I feel it was a wee bit harsh, jimjams, I appreciate the time you take to post and you obviously have allot of knowledge in that feild.
I do not doubt any of the info you present and see the logic in allot of it, I am medically minded and try to base my judgment considering all the evidence, not just one part of it.
Again not suggesting that this is what you do, I once agian would thank you for taking the time to respond.

mines a rose, please!!

I'm medically minded as well- have a PhD in Biology. I'm not interested in what's best for the population, I am interested in getting ds2 and ds3 to an independent adulthood. Severe autism is a tradgedy, and one I could do without reliving. That's all. I don;t come on here to persuade people not to vaccinate, I only come on here to explain why we took the decisions we did (which change all the time anyway- hence my quest for tetanus jab for ds2- and ds3 in about 4 years time).

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