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MMR / Single injections??

51 replies

LynnC · 04/01/2006 14:16

My dd will be due her mmr soon and I've looked into loads of web sites and researched as much as I can myself and can't see any reason why not to give her it. The only thing I havent been able to find out about is single injections and if I did decide to go down that route where locally would do them? Anyone have any idea on a web site or any other way I could find out about this?

Oh and I know would probably be easiest to talk to HV but got new one and she is a bit of a grump and not very helpful so hoping some of you nice people could give me point in right direction first

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ruty · 04/01/2006 20:10

my ds had blood in his poo from 3 months onwards and has to be on a gluten free dairy free diet [nany other food allergies] to avoid a whole lot of problems, developmental and otherwise. As i said if he did not have this problem we would go ahead with singles at 18 months. If your child is healthy i would not recommend delaying.

galaxy · 04/01/2006 20:20

You still have to have a booster for each of the single vax, 18 months after the 1st. Something to bare in mind if the money is an issue. I know coz I have got to try and find £120 for the measles booster now

Mosschops30 · 04/01/2006 20:21

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getbakainyourjimjams · 04/01/2006 20:23

The single jabs used in this country are all the same strain as the ones used in the MMR. No difference.

They are not licenced because the drugs companies haven;t asked for them to be licenced (or something political like that- somewhere I have a letter from some MP type explaining it all),

funnyonion · 04/01/2006 20:26

Thanks ruty and gbyjimjams.

Furball · 04/01/2006 20:49

getbakainyourjimjams - So glad you got the jimjams bit back in your name, I could remember it was you with just the baka bit.

Furball · 04/01/2006 20:50

sorry, typing error - I could NEVER remember it was you with just the baka bit.

homemama · 05/01/2006 13:55

We are giving DS single jabs for the very same reason as Ruty. DS has gut problems and problems with gluten.

Even at the private clinic where we have booked, who make their money out of selling such things, they told us that MMR is safe for the majority of children. The problem is that for some it isn't. These children are usually children who have leaky gut like DS.

People like myself aren't been taken in by hype as it's been called. We're just concerned parents who know that our childrens conditions make them susepteble to health and developmental problems if exposed to certain triggers. One of those triggers is MMR.

Lynn, do your research and make your decision based on what you feel to be right.

Original poster
LynnC · 05/01/2006 14:19

Thanks everyone I'm just easily confused over the whole subject swaying back & forth in my decisions. DD healthy as far as I'm aware with no gut problems so presumably should be fine with mmr. I still have time to look into more before deciding one way or other but appreciate all advice

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uwila · 05/01/2006 14:32

We give single jabs. Can't think of a sound reason not to. I was all set to go for MMR thinking the risks were basically negligible. Then my cousins son was diagnosed with autism and I suddenly decided no risk however small was worth taking.

I will decide what jabs go into my child. The government will not have the priviledge. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not ever.

And, if the government thinks I should give licensed jabs then they should license them.

kreamkrackers · 05/01/2006 15:51

my dd is 20 months and still hasn't had her mmr as we don't know whether she'll be alright with live vaccinnes. i think it's so confusing all this. she's got to have a blood test done to check her immune system to see whether she can cope with it or not. i'm not sure what happens if she can't handle it though. very very confussed!!!

ruty · 05/01/2006 16:10

what kind of bloodtest kreamkrackers? Did the doctor recommend it?

kreamkrackers · 05/01/2006 16:29

she has digeorge syndrome and because of that she needs her immune system checking before being allowed live vaccines. she's constantly getting ill and 80% of digeorge children have problems with their immune systems. sorry i should've mentioned this before but don't want to take up too much space. i'm just so confussed over it all!

Pfer · 05/01/2006 16:36

DS1 had the mmr and is absolutely fine, yet for some unknown reason - mothers instinct - I can't bring myself to get DS2 done. He'll be having the singles at around 18months.

ruty · 05/01/2006 16:53

KK that must be a worry. I 'm glad they are being careful though and testing her first. I would think that singles would be less of an assault on her immune system.

kreamkrackers · 05/01/2006 17:14

they're not being careful! i did all my own research on digeorge syndrome and found out she wasn't allowed live vaccines without her immune system being checked. i had to take my research to the doctors and health visitors, that's why its taking so long to get the bloods done. alder hey have been no help, sure they did a unique operation on her heart and she's doing ok but she has loadsa different problems and i'm not getting much help from them.

sorry got a bit carried away there.

just wish i could get the help needed. i'm really confused over loadsa health issues with my dd and this mmr thing is just one of them.

ruty · 05/01/2006 18:17

Oh KK that's awful. That is so annoying that they don't bother to think about the vaccine issue. Well done for doing your own research. In your situation I think you should delay it until you get the right advice. Are there any specialists that would understand? Hope you get the right answer. maybe delay it until she is stronger.

homemama · 05/01/2006 19:36

Sorry to hijack but Ruty, just in case you didn't see my thread on B&D saying thank you, I'll say it here.
DS's Sunderland test results came back positive for leaky gut. Thank you for all the information you posted my way.

getbakainyourjimjams · 05/01/2006 20:15

blimey good job you looked it up yourself KK. Someone had a similar story on here, she was being hassled to give her son the baby jabs by her GP, but there were immune system problems- when she finally saw an immunologist he said that had her child received the live polio jab he would have been likely to die.

Do you get to see an immunologist to advise?

kreamkrackers · 05/01/2006 20:59

i've just seen a consultant paediatrician. he's arranging her bloods to be done next week and the results should come back in two weeks. still not sure what to do with the results. i don't understand much of it. he's checking t cells and the level of antibodies to diptheria, tetanus and hib as her immune system might not have developed a memory to these vaccines. it goes way over my head! yet i've got to try to grasp a good understanding of this for dd. she had to have polio as a jab as it's live when it's oral.

Fauve · 05/01/2006 23:01

I'd agree with Ruty, KK, take your time. Yours is an exceptional case. I really hope you get the support and info you should be given.

getbakainyourjimjams · 05/01/2006 23:07

If she hasn't developed memory cells ask them how likely she it to develop them with repeated jabs.

kreamkrackers · 05/01/2006 23:10

that's a good question, never would've thought of that!

ruty · 05/01/2006 23:19

sorry homemama didn't see it! Better to know isn't it? That way you're in the best postiton to prevent problems. But its baka who's to be thanked - she's the one who put me onto sunderland.

getbakainyourjimjams · 05/01/2006 23:22

no point repeatedly jabbing if she's unlikely to ever develop antibodies, but there would be a point if she had say =picking a figure out of the air- an 80% chance. Good luck- I hope you get some answers.

You also need to ask about the consequences of not developing antibodies. For example how likely is she to catch the particular diseases? Diptheria and polio have not been in the UK for a number of years (but come in a combined jab so you may not be able to opt out of them). meningitis is rare- but you could ask whether your dd is more likely to catch it given her immune problems.