Waiting for single mumps jab or mmr? Confused

[cockneysparrow1977]

My daughter who is now 2 and a half had the single jabs around 15 months old no mumps yet tho, she's gonna be starting preschool jan and I ideally wanted her vaccinated fully before she starts although like lots of other mums out there worried about the whole mmr /autism thing I know it was never founded and all the doctors I've spoken to have told me it's safe etc and there kids have had it which reassures me to some degree although you can't help but worry about the cases where patents have reported autism symptoms soon after mmr, I have a cousin who is autistic and auntie believes it was NMR related it's a tough call as I'm sure these parents obv feel strongly that mmr I'd the cause! I'm registered with a clinician London who have told me they are expecting mumps jab in December although in
Not sure I feel confident that's going to come off it was July but it was pushed back to December! I'm in a dilemma as I don't want my child starting preschool unvaccinated and poss catching mumps but on the other hand like many others am scared about the mmr ! One friend who had her kids vaccinated with the mmr said the singles are the sane vaccines as used in the mmr just singles so how can it be any different?
Sxxx

Have you read up about mumps? You can find lots of information about it on the NHS and hpa websites. It is usually a mild disease in childhood and many parents actually choose to wait until just before puberty to have their child's immunity tested ( over 1/3 of cases are completely asymptomatic) and will vaccinate then if required because the risk of complications increases in adulthood. There are quite a few myths about mumps out there so it's definitely worth reading up on so you can make an informed decision.

Yes thanks I've read Nhs direct but what worries me is the 1 in 300 chance of brain swelling, my gp actually freaked me right out when she said she had since a child while doing peadeactrics who had ended up with cerebal palesy from mumps who was young! I know it's rare but still frightens you! I just think surely the mmr has been around long enough now and enough studies dome on it that if it was unsafe it wouldnt be offered, after all doctors etc give it to their children would they do that if they felt unsure of it but any negative press about stuff and it gets you in a tis was I just don't want my dd to start preschool and possibly catch mumps! I has mumps as a child but an older child I was 10 my sister 7 an we were ok but the doc told me it's more dangerous for children the younger they are! I kinda agree with my friend that the singles are exactly the same jab just not given in one hit but then what about all the other vaccines that are given at once the 5 in 1! I know it's a personal choice but my private gp did say to me that the longer single mumps is unavailable the more likely it will ever be! This other clinic in London have said they are getting single mumps in dec but I'm dubious about it as it was supposes to be July and got pushed back to dec! I guess all I can do is wait til dec and see if it comes off if not I'll have to consider the mmr! S xxx

1 in 300 chance of brain swelling? Can I ask where you got that figure from?

What do you mean by brain swelling too? Encephalitis? The risk of that from mumps is given as 1 in 6000.

I don't think there's a single mumps vaccination available anymore. I think the company that made it ceased production, so if you want her vaccinated against mumps she'll have to have the MMR.

I may be wrong, and production may have started again, but it certainly was the case a few years ago when I looked into singled for DS as he has an egg allergy.

I thought that encephalitis was more of a risk from measles.

Oops sorry didn't read your post fully!

Can she have the jab in december? Not long to wait then. It's notorious for not working first time as well btw - seem to remember 60 percent-ish

Can she have the jab in december? Not long to wait then. It's notorious for not working first time as well btw - seem to remember 60 percent-ish

The 1 in 300 chance of enphaciltis (apologies for bad spelling)
Was actually a figure I got from mumsnet website under Vaccinations!
I'm going to wait and see if this single vaccine comes off in December like this private clinic have said and if not I'm going to give her mmr in jan
She can't have it in December as she's got to have her 2nd flu jab at the end of dec doc did say you could have mmr at the same time as flu jab as flu isn't a live vaccine but I'd rather leave a month / six week jab
Has anyone else gone down the singles route and can't get mumps and contemplating mmr!
I think yeah the mumps component provides 60% immunity that's why a booster is due but I guess booster can be given later if single mumps still not available

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Mumps/Pages/Complications.aspx
This is worth a read.
It says that the risk of viral meningitis is 1-10% of all those affected by Mumps. It goes on to say that the risk of serious complications from viral meningitis is low. (I never find the word "low" to be particularly helpful).
Also, as Bumbley has said, the above link states that the risk of a serious brain infection (encephalitis), occurs once in every 6,000 cases.
We were going to go down the single jabs route, but only for measles. We were not going to give the German measles or mumps jabs to DS.

Please have the jab. I wear hearing aids because i got mumps at age 4. I also suffer with terrible tinitus and have no idea what silence is

Have to say the jab is not v effective - as you say, only works for 60 percent of people first time round - so don't forget the booster if you're not blood testing for immunity. It's quite widespread now as well. My bro had encephalitis from it - not nice

Have to say the jab is not v effective - as you say, only works for 60 percent of people first time round - so don't forget the booster if you're not blood testing for immunity. It's quite widespread now as well. My bro had encephalitis from it - not nice

Our children has single jabs BUT I would not have sent them to school without MMR if the mumps jab was not available.

I reacted badly to whooping cough vaccine after I had the vaccination (had severe fits a few hours after the jab) as a child and my mother therefore refused to have me given MMR.

As a result I suffered badly with measles at age 9 and it really was horrible. I also had rubella and later in life had viral meningitis which put me in hospital.

These are bad diseases.

Yes I think if the singles mumps doesn't come up I'm going to opt for the mmr although still slightly concerned about it over the whole autism thing! Merci is your brother ok? X

Morebeta did your kids have the single mumps jab? Was it available at the time? Or did you also have to go down mmr route ? I had mumps as a child aged 10 am ok but as dd is only coming up for 3 I don't want her to catch it it's a tough choice

Single mumps jab was available when we had single jabs done. This was 5 - 6 yrs ago.

Slightly off tangent but we also paid to have DSs vaccinated privately against TB as they no longer routinely do it on the NHS. That is also a terrible disease but the Govt decided that as not many people have TB outside London our children no longer generally need to be vaccinated.

Well duuuuh, not many children have it because most people in the population have been vaccinated.

I think the TB vaccine has been shown to be not very effective which is one of the reasons they stopped giving it.

Viral meningitis is much less serious than bacterial meningitis. From the meningitis research foundation:

"Most cases of viral meningitis are relatively mild, with symptoms of headache, fever and general ill feeling, and those affected recover without medical treatment. "

Thanks for asking - yes he made full recovery but later had brain tumour pos triggered by the earlier encephalitis and was not so ok. No definite link tho.

Thanks for asking - yes he made full recovery but later had brain tumour pos triggered by the earlier encephalitis and was not so ok. No definite link tho.

Morebeta: it's pants that single mumps is not being made anymore do you think if it hadnt been available when you vaccinated yours you would have gone for the mmr? Im hoping this single mumps jan comes off in dec although I don't feel positive about it so looks most likely we will be doing mmr
I didn't think the tb vaccine wasn't given due to effectiveness I thought it was given if you live in London or a high risk area when dd us slightly older think I will pay private and get her vaccinated too ESP if were going to travel
. My doctor has flu jab too xxx

Yes it is pants. We would have bitten the bullet and done MMR. Vaccination is one of the most important and simplest ways of protecting a child's health so were adamant we woudl have it done.

I always feel enraged by the MMR debate. Govt has dug in its heels and made the situation worse. In my view, parents should have been told that MMR was free and safe but if you want to pay then single jabs are available too because we (ie the Govt) would rather children were protected than force some parents to make a decision to not have their children vacinated.

Protecting children is the most important thing and I don't get why Govt were so dead set against single jabs. Single jabs didnt/don't do any harm - although obviously cost a bit more.

Morebeta: I totally Agree with your comments!
It's frustrating as you say we started down the singles route and now can't complete the course as no single mumps! I was registered with a clinic in London (that's not were I had dd vaccinated mind) who had said they were getting the single mumps vaccine in July this year they were booking people in and taking payments then they apparently had a delay in vaccine and bookings were moved to December and now no surprise they are moving bookings again to february, I'm not sure i feel confident about this they claim they are the only company uk wide that will be getting this vaccine too! Anyway I asked for a refund and explained id probably go for the mmr as it was 100 and the woman got all shirty on the phone and said fine if you want your child to become autistic then have the mmr which I thought was very unprofessional, if I want dd to be vaccinated against all 3 then doesn't look like I have much choice but to go opt for the mmr

The reason the government insists (ed) on MMR is because it is not only safe, but is a modern vaccine. The single vacines are an 'old' recipe, they are not as effective and have more side effects.

Vaccines are constantly developed and improved, they have fewer side effects.

Don't believe me? Have a look at where your child recieved MMR or measels vaccine - you probably can't see a mark. Then have a look at your own arm, that of your parents and grand parents. You will notice a circle left from when the vacine was administered and the older you are the larger it is.

Please Please, for the sake of your own children and other peoples', if your child has had single vaccines, check that your children are actually immune.

Single jabs DO cause harm, because parents believe their child is immune when they are not. They also mean that a child only gets immunity one jab at a time so it can be a while before they get immunity to measels, mumps and rubella.

Only one study, a fraudulant study, by someone who owned a company that made single vaccines, ever found a link. That research should never have been published.

Add to that, the fact that the numbers of autistic children have not risen with the introduction of MMR.

Then add to that the number of deaths due to measels increasing from zero.

Seriously if Coca-cola published a study of 5 children that said Pepsi cola was linked to .............. pick a disease / disability but their product wasn't (or Pepsi publish the study against Coca-cola) would you believe them?

IMHO Andrew Wakefield should bd in prison