Recommend infant cranial therapist please - deeperate

[MacMomo]

Cambridge-Peterborough-Bedford area preferred. Thanks, we are desperate with night screaming and need to try all ideas.

As I said before, I'm not saying that your baby can't be more docile/sleepy after his skull is manipulated. I'm asking if you would really want his brain to be prodded and his behavior thus altered.

It is not magic, you know. If it has an effect, it is because your baby's brain is being manipulated from the outside. You have to know at some level that this is not a good thing.

OP doesn't want to read all this, understandably, and that is tough. For her.

Cote CO does not manipulate the brain, it very gently massages the bones in the skull to release trapped tension and nerves - it would have to be quite forceful to affect the brain in anyway and it isn't - it is extremely gentle. If a babies brain was damaged that easily every knock and bump would be investigated in A&E

Do you think birth causes brain damage because the movement and pressures the skull are put under even during the most text book birth are a thousand times more than during CO. Do you think all babies should be born via c-section to prevent damage to babies maleable skulls?

You compare the results to having holes drilled into skulls - which again is odd as those people became more docile due to brain damage which changed their behaviour - CO doesn't change behaviour, it relieves physical symptoms.

While there is no peer reviewed evidence to say that it works, there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest that it works - I have yet to see any scientific or anecdotal evidence to suggest that it causes any form of brain damage.

Based on the fact that there is no evidence to suggest it causes damage, I'd much rather use CO which cured DD1's reflux than pump a baby full of biological glue which effectively plugs the gastric tract preventing the body from carrying out a natural function, thereby masking the problem rather than curing it.

You say you think it is dangerous, yet the only link you provide is one to say there is no evidence of it working not that it causes damage - making your assumptions as lacking in evidence as those people who believe that it works.

If it's not for you - fine, no one is forcing you to take your children to a CO, but there is really no need to berate people who have used it and found it helpful.

Have you asked your health visitor for a recommendation? My CO was recommended this way.

cote Actually you're wrong on several counts. Firstly, my PhD specialised in Pathology which in my book is science-based, following on from my first degree in Natural Sciences. Secondly, no your links to sites like Bad Science is not tough for me (I do concede that I don't want to read that - and won't). Finally, I have reported you for trolling this thread when I have repeatedly and politely asked not to have a discussion. I will not respond to any further posts by you and I ask that other people do not, either. Start you own thread and have your debate there.

My cousin is a Paediatrician and he routinely recommends CO, as does the Royal College of Midwives. Maybe they also know nothing about babies.

DD has had this treatment before - that is, we had CO, not any kind of "brain prodding". So thank you to the posters who have been kind enough to provide information and suggestions. I haven't made contact with a HV in this area yet, but will do so and seek a recommendation and also contact the recommended London practice and see if they can recommend in this area.

If anyone else has any recommendations specific to this area, I would be grateful.

Many thanks.

Dear Footle hmm whichever kids in Cameroon you are talking about may very well all be slightly damaged. I don't know, neither do you. Perhaps if all they do run around the bushes every day of their lives, some fifty points shaved off their IQ doesn't quite show.

I find the quotation above from cotedazur racist and offensive and I have asked mumsnet to remove it from my thread.

If you're not too far from Woburn Sands, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Kate Highstead. I took my daughter to her for plagiocephaly.

"CO does not manipulate the brain, it very gently massages the bones in the skull to release trapped tension and nerves"

Sorry but that is ridiculous. "Trapped tension? What on earth is that and how exactly is it supposed to get trapped between the plates of a baby's skull?

Nerves cannot get trapped between the plates of a skull. It is just not possible. The skull is not the spine and there are no nerves passing through its plates like those passing through the vertebrates.

"You say you think it is dangerous, yet the only link you provide is one to say there is no evidence of it working not that it causes damage"

I said if it were to work, it would be dangerous. One of these two can happen, but not both or neither:
(1) CO touches very gently. Nothing happens because he is effectively caressing baby's hair.
(2) CO massages baby's skull hard enough to make a difference in her behavior, in which case I would be worried and so should you.

Simple, really. Either it is a con, or it is a dangerous practice.

What does race have to do with it? Whatever race you are, if you are living in a primitive hunter-gatherer environment, it is quite possible that slight brain damage could go unnoticed. Especially if everyone else in your community has the same damage inflicted at around birth.

snowmummy no not too far from WS - many thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out :)

macmomo... i would also suggest seeing stuart korth if you can,

he is AMAZING!

treated me as a child, and has treated 2 out of my 3 children with great success.
i can't recommend him highly enough

Might be a little far away for you but I took DS2 to this practice [[http://www.bishops-stortford-physio.co.uk/5.html in Bishops Stortford. I can't remember the name of the person we saw but there is only one therapist who specialises in treating babies. I respected her honesty - she told us that whilst there was some mis-allignment it was not substantial and so suggested that we didn't need more than one session. It helped a bit (DS was born back to back), although his problems were eventually found to be allergy related.

Sorry here www.bishops-stortford-physio.co.uk/5.html

I can recommend an amazing one but is Kent to far to travel?

I know a very good woman in Norwich if you're prepared to travel that far? Let me know if you want details

MacMoo have you tried your local NCT group - they might be able to recommend or you could try the MumsNet local groups on here?

Hope you find one - we took DS also a very unsettled, screamy baby and it really helped and 4 years on he is as bright as a button and not showing any adverse effects . Some people think they know it all.....

"What does race have to do with it? Whatever race you are, if you are living in a primitive hunter-gatherer environment, it is quite possible that slight brain damage could go unnoticed. Especially if everyone else in your community has the same damage inflicted at around birth."

• Umm, you assume that Cameroon is a "primative hunter gatherer" environment. There's your racism, right there. I guess you imagine that the whole of africa is filled with people living in mud huts with lions and giraffes as pets?

My word.

Is Colchester too far away? I recommend David Kennett at the Mersea Road Clinic

www.mersearoadclinic.co.uk

Bling - No actually, I'm not assuming that all of Africa is a primitive hunter-gatherer environment. I am, however, remembering two documentaries I have watched about tribes that mold their babies' heads (subject of this thread, after all) and those were primitive hunter-gatherer environments.

I'm happy to learn about professional urban dwellers who continue this practice, if any.

Molding babies heads is not the topic of this thread. This thread is me asking people to recommend infant CO practitioners in my area.

This is the third time I have stated that this is not a discussion thread.

I urge people not to respond to the trolling behaviour and not participate in any discussion on this thread.

Thank you

Kath Harry in Melbourn, just south of Cambridge worked wonders on my son's glue ear with co but that was about 11 years ago. I believe she is still practising.

thank you, that's very close I'll have a look :)

(And thank you to mumsnet who agreed that post about Cameroonian babies was offensive and deleted it).