HELP - Advice needed - baby vomiting !!!

[geegeesmum]

Hi,

First time mum here and I am panicking !!! DD (2 weeks shy of 6 months) just projectile vomited her entire feed all over me, herself & bed - never seen so much milk she just kept vomiting until all the milk was out of her system ! She had a similar episode on Sun night and Mon morning (2 feeds). Took her to GP as she has slight cold as well. GP said no obvious problem and just to monitor her and make sure she got some fluids. She was fine for the rest of yesterday and today and then vomited this last feed at 11pm and I suspect the one before (6pm) as well as when I got her out of her cot to feed her at 11pm her sheet was soaked (feel v bad about that !). She is quite happy and not too bothered by it all. Started her on solids 2 weeks ago and have just recently increased amts to 2 cubes of veg at 11am and a further 2 at 6pm with two teasp of baby rice - could I be overfeeding her - this is FAR more than the guidleines in GF and AK? I am giving her more because she seems to like it - but maybe I should know better. Could it be an allergy to baby rice ? Any advice - should I take her back to the GP ? Anybody had anything similar. Tomorrow I have decided not to give her any solids and on Thurs I am going to only give her one cube in the morning and one at night and no baby rice. I am Breastfeeding BTW. THANKS !

Poor you, it's all so scary isn't it. Sounds like a good idea to not do solids for a day and see if she's still vomiting. You're best guage of how shes is of course is how she 'seems' to you, so if she doesn't seem bothered try not too worry too much. They definitely don't mind vomiting like we do. Dd had awful cold and cough which kept making her sick but she always seemed relieved rather than upset once she'd got it all out. Hopefully someone else can advise on amounts of food - I'm really not sure if that's a lot though again I think you're the best judge - if she seems to enjoy it it's probably not too much. Allergy to baby rice sounds vv unlikely. Do you mix with breast milk ? Did you introduce a different veg ? Probably just the cold upsetting her tum so then she can't keep all her feed down. As you're b/fing she can make up on that if she's still hungry. So try not to worry too much. Lay her down on a couple or folded towels in the cot so you can just chuck them in the wash instead of having to change the sheets each time. See your GP if you're still worried tomorrow or the next day - that's what they're there for so don't worry about seeming neurotic ! HTH Good luck

I dont know much but they can throw up loads when there tummys are full. It always looks worse. My little baby always did. As long as shes putting on weight when you next check. Sorry not much help!

Hi there

Firstly, don't panic. Milk always seems to look as if it is 'buckets' full - especially breast milk.

Don't feel bad about not noticing the sick earlier either ....it happens. Also, in my opinion, It doesn't sound like too much food, so relax.

It might be best to just give B/f for two or three days, not just one and forget about solids, you can always introduce them again gradually.

If she seems otherwise well, no temperature, rashes etc., it may just be a stomach bug/virus ( a few others have posted about sickness over the past few days).

Go with your instincts....they are usually "tuned in". If anything changes and you are worried, contact your GP or out of hours service. Don't feel like a bother - they are there to help.

Take care and hope things improve soon.

butterfly

Thanks for advice - she is fast asleep now - think I will wake her up in a couple of hrs just to give her a small feed so she gets some liquid into her. I either use breastmilk with the rice or I mix in with butternut squash. Introduced carrot on Sat night so maybe its that...quite strong tasting carrot so perhaps it doesnt agree with her - altho she had it at 11am today and the butternut and rice at 6pm - so you would think if it was the carrot she would have been sick earlier than 11pm ??? Will definatley keep her off solids for a few days and then revert to plain rice for a few days. Good tip re towels altho for tonight I have chucked DH out of the bed and put her next to me so i know if she is sick again.

Whats your excuse for being up at quarter to 1 ?

I'd just feed her solids in the morning so you can see how she is for the rest of the day, without being too tired. My first born threw everything up. His stomach took a while to get used to "real" food. I stuck with breast milk a lot of the time until he gradually got used to it. Dont worry too much! I hope you get a good nights rest

Hi, ds did exactly the same with baby rice - projectiled the whole lot in a cafe, and then all down our door at home. He now will not look at baby rice, even disguised with pear. These things happen but my MIL practically took him to A&E.
My theory is its the added iron which is just too difficult for a baby to digest if they are bf. When I use normal rice flour as a thickener its fine. Just stick to bm for until the vomits are clear for 24 hours and then go back into the veggies. I don't think the amounts sound excessive. Let us know how you get on.

Never had this after solids - but my dd had quite a few projectile vomiting episodes - like you say it's in a different league to normal baby vomiting and it's pretty scary the first time it happens.

If it continues obviously go back to your GP. But my dd had this a couple of times when she had colds - particularly if I tried to give her calpol after a feed. She would literally bring up the whole breastfeed - like some horror movie!

At this age they can manage fine on just breastmilk, and we were advised whilst she was unwell to just stick to breastmilk for a few days and then return to trying solids once the vomiting had cleared. Breastmilk is great stuff - often when they can keep nothing else down, they will be able to take a breastfeed and it's comforting and wonderfully nutritious.

I think it sounds like a minor tummy bug - there are loads around - or related to the cold. Ds is sometimes sick if he gets phlegm in his throat. Personally, I'd stick to breastmilk and not solids for a few days. And I wouldn't wake a happily sleeping baby either I'm pretty sure it's not a problem with her food - that would be more likely to cause a rash or swelling.

Thanks all. She was sick again at 4am after another feed. So I have given her just little bits of milk (3 teaspoons) and tiny bit of boiled water at around 6.30, 9.00, 9.45 and am going to continue this until lunch time and if she doesnt bring it all back up again will try giving her a bit more. Feeling pretty confident that she will be OK by then - as she hasnt brought anything up since 4am. I think based on what you all have said that it is combination of things - too much solids at night plus the stuffy nose - dont think its tummy bug becos then she should still be vomiting, wouldnt she ???? - just too much to handle at night -so am going to take her off solids for a few days then reintroduce slowly and definatley not mix the butternut with baby rice - what was i thinking - i would also puke that up ! Also not give to her at night only morning and lunch time.

She has also now got a very slight rash behind her ear and on chest and inside elbows) - think that may be the snufflebabe (like vics vapor rub for babes) that i applied to her chest - she has sensitive skin - so I reckon its that.

Poor thing what with a cold, rash and dodgy tummy - shouldnt have to deal with that at 6 months ! Feeling v v bad about stuffing too many solids into her at night, but I suppose I will make lots of other mistakes before she's 21 !

Ah yes, the "exorcist" moment. We had one the first time we fed the sluglet avocado. Virulent green vomit being projected all over the place. Pretty scary, even if your child is a vomiter anyway (as mine was).

I just came to the conclusion that she wasn't quite ready for avocado at that point in time and reintroduced it a couple of months later with no problems.

As long as she dosen't seem too worried thaen I wouldn't panic - hard to do I know when there's vomit everywhere. You'll look back on this moment and laugh.

I came across this website about Reflux whilst doing my Netmums site. It's something I have only vaguely heard about, but apparently it is very common. Thought that perhaps it might help on this thread.

rhubarb
Reflux usually manifests itself much earlier than 6 months and is worse (or at least vomiting often is) on a purely liquid diet so doubt that applies in this case - useful site though and wish I had had it for dd.

Sounds like something just disagreed with her - ds was similar with apricot/rice. I'd go back to basic familiar food and try to introduce something else for the time being. Cold won't help as she is probably swallowing phlegm - have you tried angling the cot head ?

Have a pillow under the matress and karvol on a muslin near by. Will stop the snufflebabe ointment - she hates it being applied anyway. Is fast asleep now and v annoyed with me for not allowing her to feed for longer than a few minutes at a time....really bellowing at me...then fell fast asleep - reckon she wont sleep long as she will be hungry soon! I guess hunger is a good sign. Will try a full feed later this afternoon. Hope she is OK soon - we are off to italy for a week on Sat week and dont want to have a sick bambino on holiday ! DH not at all concerned - he says as long as she is happy she can't be too bad. I know he has a point but it really was scary to seem her that sick for the first time ever. Is it a common thing for 1st time moms to worry whilst 1st time dads are calm - he makes me feel like a worry wart....may change my nickname on mumsnet to worrywart.

Sorry, I know it wasn't really relevant to geegeesmum (though she did say her dd is only just coming up to 6 months), but I thought that as the thread had a general 'baby vomiting' title that other mums might find the site useful.

Good news - no vomiting today DD just gone to sleep - lets hope we have a good night and not a repeat of last night ! Think I may go to sleep myself now as I am exhausted. Thanks everyone for the god advice and support.

God advice

just a thought - but my ds does the projectile vomiting thing just before teething. Possible?

slug, i had an identical avocado moment with ds (& he wasn't a vomitter). still haven't dared give it to him & he's 20 months now....

When I was breast feeding ds, he would projectile vomit several times during the day. The doctor and the health visitor couldn't/wouldn't help me get to the bottom of it. It took some time but eventually I realised that he would vomit after I had eaten a garlic based dish and a dish containing it. Strange but true. Once I realised this I stayed off the garlic menu (dh was pleased!). Hope this help you cos I knows how it feels.

Sorry should be goOd advice ! All is well again no more vomiting so was definately the food...altho the teething theory might also be valid as she does like to bite down on my (or anyones)unsuspecting finger..can't see anything tho' but it is v hard to see whats going on in there when she bites my finger as soon as it gets near. Not allowed to eat garlic so its not that, could be something else in my diet - will watch out for that - hope its not the chocolate!

Oh well we are back to square 1 again !!! Kept her off the solids for 4 days since Wednesday - then re-introduced baby rice (as she initially started on this for 6 days with no ill effect) so I thought it couldnt possibly be that ! Fed her 2 teaspoons at 12 after her milk and then at 3 pm she had a vomitting episode for about 45 mins and this time it clearly upset her as she was moaning and crying - not a happy little girl at all...eventually there was no more milk or rice left just bile and then she stopped - HORRIBLE !!!! So Bobthebaby as you say it must be the babyrice - can't be a tummy bug as why would she stop vomitting for 4 days and then start again after the rice...too much fo a a co-incidence. Also has some rash like spots on her chin ! Guess it could be teething but my guess is babyrice. Going to keep her off solids now until after our holiday to Italy and then try the butternut again. Going to see HV on Tuesday.

I really hope its not all solids that she has a problem with - i.e. some sort of digestive problem - I mean why would she be OK on baby rice for a week and then suddenly have a problem ??? Am v nervous now about putting her onto solids again.

geegeesmum - give just breastmilk for a few days till she settles ( no need for water). When introducing solids again forget the baby rice since she is almost 6 months old. She will be fine to have just pureed carrot initally then mix it with potato. Baby rice is usually only used when starting weaning at an earlier age. If you think it is the problem themn ditch it.

I also brought back the baby rice yesterday as I felt weird giving the little chap veggies for breakfast. All day wind, no sleeping, very unsettled and no smiles. Thankfully no vomits, but then he didn't eat very much of it. I'm giving away the rest of mine - it's just not worth the hassle.

I'm giving mine away too - actually a friend gave me her unopened box as her dd "dislikes" it intensely too...here i was thinking that DD was the only baby in the world to be allergic to baby rice. Am also secretly quite pleased as I hated having to express milk to mix with the rice !

I have now read up all about allergies on the internet and am now thinking that the cold she developed when we first introduced baby rice might have been an early indication of an allergy....hindsight is a wonderful thing !

Do you think that the rash on her chin/checks is also part of the allergy ? Anybody else out there had vomiting AND rash with allergy to food ?

I'm so glad that I have found this site as I just experienced similar things that geegeemum experienced! My baby is almost 5 months old and I introduced solids to him 2 weeks ago. He loves his solids but tonight I gave him something different. Heinze (4-6months old) pumpkin, potato, beef after his night time bottle and the vomit! OMG!! It went everywhere!! He even made that horrible vomit sound too! Afterwards he was gurgling and smiling and didn't seemed fazed by it all. He also has a bit of a cold the last few days. I got really worried and wondered if I should take him to the hospital. I decided to google some things and that's how I came across this site. I feel a whole lot better now after reading everyones messages on here. He didn't seem too thrilled as he was eeating this new type of food. He only had about 5 mouthfuls. Plus it's the first time he has something with potato and beef in it. I'm now thinking that he threw it all up because he disliked the food...?? He hasn't gotten any rashes or anything so I don't think it's got anything to do with allergies...