Persona and Mirena

[pie]

Can anyone tell me if you can use both at the same time, or will the hormones in the mirena give false readings?

I have been advised given my past history with contraception and freaky fertility levels that I should use the mirena and condoms, though I would prefer not to use condoms with DH, and thought the persona would do as my back up.

Or, Doc has advised, never have sex again if I don't want more babies.

TIA

Dear Pie, do you still want to have more children in the future, because if your family is complete, it might be an idea to consider a more permanent form of contraception? In our 22 yrs together, DH and I have used condoms, the pill, an IUD, a diaphragm and after 3 planned and one unplanned children, we decided on sterilisation. (He agreed to a vasectomy but I then had to have surgery so I had the sterilisation done at the same time). The relief and peace of mind this brought was incredible, and the spontaneity it has made possible is great. If you still want more kids this will be irrelevant, but lots of couples seem not to consider it even though they don't want more children.

DH and I have considered being sterlised, but he is 26 and I'm 27, so although we are both pretty sure that we don't want another, we do both think that we are too young to say NEVER, iyswim!

Pie, so sorry, I keep forgetting that most mumsnetters are so much younger than me!

Could you use the mirena and cap? Because I would have thought the persona won't work to well with the mirena, because of the hormones. To be honest I don't trust it much anyway - I managed to get pregnant whilst using it - it isn't awfully reliable!

I was once told that there are 2 100% methods of contraception. A hysterectomy or a cup of cocoa. The cocoa isn't drunk before or after sex, it's drunk instead of sex

Would have thought that the cap would be better than the persona, as the coil has hormones.

But wouldn't there be a risk of the strings from the coil tearing the cap?

I'm not that great with the cap though, DD is testiment to that

I didn't think that was much chance of mirena and coil, but just on the off chance. I guess I'm looking for a back up to the mirena. I know that they are very reliable, but having got pregnant with the IUD I'm thinking your methods are the only ones hmb!

I think that it would depend how long the strings are, Pie. If they are left a little longer they will not 'jut' out of the cervix so much. The rubber of the diaphragn is fairly thick. That said, I've never seen the threads of a mirena coil. Are they very tough?

The only other thing might be an increaced risk of infection, since you have to leave the cap in place for several hours (not casting comments on your sex life pie, I just mean the regulat yeast infection type things). I'd have a word with your local family plannign clinic, they should give you some advice.

Other than that, get a nice big mug!!

cap- if you're like me by the time you managed to get the blasted thing in you'd fancy that cup of cocoa. how about a real passion killer- the female condom

Pie - I remember when you were asking (on Mumsnet) about sterilisation.... and some of us did think you were too young

You definitely can't use persona and mirena together - I have had this confirmed directly by persona. I agree 26 7 27 is a bit young for sterilisation, and if you both think you're too young too, it's definitely not the way forward. Sorry can't offer any suggestions, only able to confirm your suspicions.

Thanks monkey...I will continue my search for the perfect (yeah right!) contraception.

Was just about to say how great IUDs were and then read on a bit - aaarrrggghhh!!!!!!

Did make me laugh in your first post "though I would prefer not to use condoms with DH" - makes it sound as though you don't mind with all of the other men that you have -

I would steer clear of persona too - if you are ultra fertile I would say that a barrier method is probably best - just do not have any idea about them - am allergic to latex (which they all seem to be made from ) and cannot use hormones (so that wipes out the other options!!).

Have you spoken to your GP??

I would definately say do not get steralized though

Hi Boe

My GP said I should use the mirena coil (which I probably will anyway) AND condoms.

DD was conceived with cap, the baby I m/c was a condom and this baby that is beating me senseless inside was with an IUD, the IUD being in the right place, it hadn't fallen out or slipped.

I've WANTED, very much, each and very baby, always been too scared to actively try though (well maybe I wasn't that great with the cap for those reasons) but no matter what contraception I'm on my body does its own thing.

Can't go on the pill (the hormones make me suicidal)...

Infact the best method I've ever come accross is being pregnant.

Actually I'm off to start a thread about something that happened yesterday.

Mirena is statistically safer than sterilisation! But some people seem to get pregnant no matter what...

Boe, I think that there used to be a cap (as opposed to a diaphragm) made that was not made of latex. I'm not sure who made it, or if it is still being made. It might be worth asking the family planning clinic to investigate.

I got on well with the diaphragm. I didn't put it in every night (as some clinics advise 'just in case'as that would have seemed like taking my harp to a party and no-one asking me to play

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