Oh no - could this be threadworms and I'm 4 weeks away from delivery??

[lisalisa]

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I would not know about the rooting around, i only know all this from reading a thread on mumsneyt before now. Thankfully we have not had it in this house as of yet probably just cursed myself saying that, But i have had the piles since i have been pregnant and mine don't itch they hurt

bed wetting and tummy ache common in kids with threadworms. Both ds and dd complained of sore tummy and both wet the bed but neither complained of itchy bum (though I did catch dd itching).

You need to treat the whole family - don't know how old your kids are but you can get stuff from the chemist (Ovex). Treat them once then repeat in 2 weeks time. It is quite difficult to get rid of them. Kids must be in underpants/knickers at night - wash their bums AS SOON AS they get up in the morning and wash their hands and under their nails. Ruthlessly change bed linen/pyjamas - lots of hoovering, cleaning door handles etc. etc. - basically, just what you want when you're 36 weeks pregnant. If it persists, you can go to doc and get Vermox which is a bit stronger. Don't forget that the threadworm cycle only exists because we re-infect ourselves.

It's really common - kids pick it up everywhere (especially sandpits).

dd also got a sore vagina (they can irritate it)and kept waking up (it's the intense itching - they can't distinguish where it is coming from I guess).

check the kids at night and first thing in the morning to see if you can see their worms before you treat them (just in case it isn't threadworms)

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Itching/discomfort after going to the loo sounds like piles. Maybe you have both? Lucky you.

Seriously, the worms are gross and horrible and unpleasant, but a) not dangerous and b) pretty much everyone with kids gets them.

lisalisa, the kids were treated with vermox (liquid, on prescription), although they could have had the Cina 30c. And yes - keep them in pants at night, wash hands, wash bedding regularly etc. Ours cleared up fairly quick (though as I say I needed to repeat dose after two weeks, which is fairly standard).

Foxinsock - that's interested my DD has been complaining of sore tummy for months and has also been wetting the bed (about 3 times a week)

I've put it down to bullying - but I'm starting to wonder now - as the bullying has stopped and she is much more cheerful - but the tummy pains and bed wetting has carried on

I think I could be a bad mummy and need to go to the chemist

don't feel bad katymac - I only knew the kids had it because I had it aswell and ds kindly pooed his pants and I saw the little blighters!

Once they are not in nappies, it's quite hard to pick up I guess.

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lisalisa - sounds like piles to me...sorry

Foxinsocks - would it hurt to treat her for worms just in case (she nearly 8 and I'm not allowed to go poking about in her poo...or even in the bathroom when she is doing a poo)

normally there are little red/dark skin lines around the hole - they don't protrude though. They are kind of like the skin coming together to make the hole(does that make sense)? Otherwise, that sounds like small piles.

Yup, sounds like piles. If they are lumps, if they stick out a bit, rather than just being ridges, then they're piles.

If you're having absolutely intolerable itching at night, too, though, you may have threadworms as well.

I don't know katymac. I'm sure it wouldn't harm her but maybe ask the chemist. Dd did complain quite a bit about the sore tummy and it did disappear after 2 treatments. Could you sneak a look late at night while she's sleeping (at her bum - to see if they are crawling out)?

Not really - she would disturb.....my mum says she was itching her bum in the summer....

Oh Bu&&er - I think I'd rather be safe than sorry

I think if she has itchy bum + sore tummy then you might as well treat her. We found when we gave the kids the liquid (you can get syrup or tablets), the worms crawled out a lot (as if they sensed they were being killed) and we found dead worms around their bums in the morning so keep an eye out. Although it does kill them, they still come out and lay eggs so you have to be ultra clean (which is why it's worth treating again in 2 weeks).

Unfortunately, it took us over a few months to be fully rid of them. We gave one treatment plus a follow up and then had to do the same around 2 months later because they returned (or more likely, hadn't gone away in the first place).

Thanks for the advise FoxinSocks

Sorry for the hijack Lisalisa - hope you feel better soon

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is dd3 still in nappies? could you check the poo in them?

otherwise, could you check the other kid's bottoms in the night or are they too old for that?

& I may not even have noticed my dd has worms

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oh no you poor thing. 4 inches sounds very long for a threadworm!! Was it definitely thin and white? maybe it just seemed a bit longer because of it's position (quite often, 2 or 3 get together in a row and look a like one long one).

At least you know what it is. Remember to treat all the kids and you at the same time and definitely repeat the dose after 2 weeks.

Fingers crossed you can zap them all before d-day.

lisalisa - what you describe is not a threadworm. Threadworms are absolutely tiny and they wriggle a lot. What you could have seen was mucous. You sound as though you are developing piles which can be very itchy. Get some anusol cream and that will help. The more you worry about an itch , the more you actually itch IYSWIM?

THread worms are about a mm wide and a cm long, or there abouts. If you could see one at any dustance you would need eyes like a hawk! They are very small and thread like, whire and wriggle a lot.

click on the what do threadworms look like question

(NOTE - picture a bit graphic but is exactly what threadworms look like)