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Laser eye surgery

24 replies

cathbath · 22/12/2010 18:22

I've been considering this for quite a few years, as I'm quite short sighted (-5.25 in both eyes). I am just a bit worried about the recovery time (and the risks...), as I have 2 young DCs to look after.

I wondered if anyone has had it done in the Bristol area? Where would you recommend? If I have the choice, should I go for Lasek or Lasik? Thanks :)

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PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 22/12/2010 18:23

I there, no advice but I'm in the same position as you (last eye test was -5.00 in both eyes and I suspect my left is worse than that now) and I've been thinking about this for about 13 years.. never plucked up the courage despite encouragement from loads of people.

PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 22/12/2010 18:25

I there?? (accidental punnage allert Wink)

Obviously I meant HI there.

notapizzaeater · 22/12/2010 18:28

I am 13 years in and was about -2 -3 in my eyes. Have had 20:20 vision until this year when my eyes are starting to go (old age - nothing they can do about it !! though still am only -.25 so ignoring it for the min)

Best thing I ever did

howdoo · 22/12/2010 19:02

Hi, I had it done in October, and it was brilliant. I had Lasik (not sure the differences between that and Lasek) and was -4 and -5 before and now it is really good. Sometimes one eye is a bit blurry, but it is supposed to take a few months to settle down. Let the clinic advise you on what to have done. I had it done in the afternoon, went home and lay down and an hour later it was much better. However, the first hour was a bit brutal - someone said it was like putting an onion in front of your eyes. Next day I drove myself to the follow up appointment. I am not in the UK but if I was, I would go to Moorfields to do it.
It is one of those things that you will do when you are ready, and not before. Make sure you trust the person doing it - mine had done 55,000 of them or something, so I felt fairly safe.

cathbath · 22/12/2010 19:15

Wow, quick responses, thanks :)

I've been wearing glasses since I was 9 so it would be wonderful to be rid of them. I am 34 now and hoping for a few more years of good vision after the surgery, although I expect I'll need reading glasses when I'm older. I pay a fortune for glasses (with special thinner lenses) and contact lenses at the moment.

I have been waiting for the right time for so long... I don't mind paying extra for the right place I can trust. Not sure I could make it as far as Moorfields though as each appointment would involve DH taking time off work to look after the kids.

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PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 22/12/2010 19:49

I'm also wondering about getting it done in Moorfields.. cathbath, you shouldn't need too many appointments I don't think (maybe someone could advise)

rabbitstew · 22/12/2010 21:43

I wouldn't assume Moorfields is automatically the best place to go for laser eye surgery. I would research it properly, first...

notapizzaeater · 22/12/2010 21:56

I went to Ultralase and other than the first day was fine, could haved gone to work the next day but as they weren't expecting me went shopping instead Grin

PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow · 22/12/2010 22:50

any reason for that comment rabbit? Not being arsey, just wondering if you have any reason to doubt them?

rabbitstew · 22/12/2010 23:12

Lasek has a longer recovery time than Lasik and is generally more painful. After lasik, most people find they have clear vision almost straight away and can return to work the next day if they want to. However, your vision may fluctuate for a while as your eye recovers, you may suffer from eye dryness (for anything from a few weeks to more than a year if you're unlucky), and some people find they have a couple of weeks of mild visual effects before this dies down, too (including mild starbursts or haloes at night, so if you've had your eyes done by someone reputable and find this, it's best not to panic as it is more likely than not to go away over time). Generally, the effects are mild, so wouldn't normally, eg, prevent you from driving safely. Some people never notice any of this, never get dry eyes and wonder what all the fuss is about, of course... Others find they get all the problems and they don't ever all go away. You may also get subconjunctival haemorrhaging, which looks unpleasant but is totally harmless - just takes weeks to clear. Other side effects are very rare indeed, and long-term problems are very rare (provided your suitability for the surgery was properly assessed prior to going ahead, of course...). If you are like me, you will research them anyway and get into a blind (!) panic about it, convinced you'll end up needing a corneal eye transplant, and then for some obscure reason go ahead with it, anyway. Incidentally, I now have vision 2 lines better than 20:20 and no sign, yet, of needing a transplant, but I hopefully have another 50 years or so to live in which to suffer any number of unpredictable consequences, so watch this space.

After Lasik, you have to be careful about picking up anything heavier than a bag of sugar in the initial period (can't remember how long) after the surgery, so would need to be careful about picking up children!!! Also, you have to sleep in an eye mask for about a month afterwards. This is to protect the flap they create in your eye as part of the Lasik procedure - you wouldn't want it dislodged!!!!!!!! Small children and toddlers also do have very poke-inclined fingers, so it has been known for some paranoid types to wear protective DIY goggles at home when playing with their kids for the first few weeks!... I don't think any of the Laser Eye centres advise this one, though! Also, in the first month, you are given steroid drops and antibiotic drops (first week only for antibiotics) to take on a regular basis (and may also need dry eye drops), which may require you to keep your eyes closed for a short period several times a day. As for the number of follow up appointments, that partly depends on where you got it done and how straightforward the recovery process is... Hopefully, you would have had the sense to research the best place with the best equipment and the best surgeon so as to minimise the chance of ever having to go through the whole hideous procedure again and to minimise the risk of any unwelcome consequences/reassure yourself that your surgeon is also competent to deal with the complications and not just someone who creates the problems!

ps before you are assessed for your suitability for laser eye surgery, you have to have gone without contact lenses for a period of time, as CLs affect the shape of the eye, so you need to be CL free for long enough for your eyeball's natural shape to be apparent, otherwise the measuring equipment will get it all wrong...

pps I don't regret having my eyes done - it's fantastic to be able to see clearly, even in the rain... and wasn't as much of a problem as it may sound from the above to have your eyes done whilst looking after small children.

rabbitstew · 22/12/2010 23:19

Hi, PureAsTheColdDrivenSnow - no reason to doubt them, just pointing out that a fabulous reputation in other areas of the eye does not automatically guarantee a fabulous reputation in the realms of laser eye surgery, so it is something you should research, rather than just assuming you don't need to do that just because it's Moorfields.

Imo, you'd want to go to someone who had operated on the eyes of other eye surgeons and eye experts (my personal favourite mark of quality!), using the latest equipment, preferably, as laser technology moves apace. You won't find all the best lasik surgeons are based at Moorfields eye hospital, albeit there may well be one or two based there and for all I know, they all may be reasonable.

Florin · 22/12/2010 23:26

My father in law is one of the best eye surgeons in the country and highly respected in his field. His son (my dh) is -8.5 so very blind and his dad still refuses to let him have it done. He says it hasn't been around long enough to know the long term side affects and a lot of people are left with side effects such as dry eyes or being unable to drive at night.
If you do decide to get it done please don't go to specsavers or similar. The people who do it there are normally retired GP's who have a weekend course on how to use the machine. If you do it go to a proper hospital like moorfields with a proper consultant doing it.
However I know my dh's father will do anything for him to make his life better and dh would love to have better sight as it really frustrates him but his father won't let him risk his sight.

rabbitstew · 22/12/2010 23:27

ppps the chances of needing a corneal eye transplant are extremely remote! I'm just interested in chances in their ones in tens of thousands...

Florin · 22/12/2010 23:34

Oh and according to fil moorfields is best. Fil also know man who invented the procedure! Any good person also won't give you 20:20 vision they will make it slightly under so you won't need glasses when you are older

rabbitstew · 22/12/2010 23:35

Go to someone who knows an awful lot in particular about the cornea (eg corneal eye surgeon), because it is an operation on the cornea. You want someone who knows as much as possible about the effects on the cornea of having bits shaved off it, including the damage this can do to its structural stability and the nerves that are damaged by cutting into it. I also stand by my comment on going to someone who's operated on other eye surgeons - another person who knows a lot about the eye but is still willing to have their cornea lacerated is a great vote of confidence for the surgeon doing it to them!!!!!

ps some eye surgeons still advise against people using soft contact lenses - if you are being very cautious, you shouldn't get it done, as there will be no proof it works for a lifetime until it's worked for a lifetime...

rabbitstew · 22/12/2010 23:37

Forin - not true about not needing glasses when you are older. They'll just leave you slightly short sighted but still needing glasses when you are older - eyes age and all old people need glasses. Also, I don't see how someone who doesn't approve of the procedure could actually be fully aware of the best place to get it done, tbh. I would still favour doing my own research...

TheNextMrsClaus · 22/12/2010 23:41

Don't leave it too long. I thought about it for ages, but now I'm 43 my sight has started to go longer, and the window of opportunity has passed.

rabbitstew · 22/12/2010 23:45

(ps if you're wondering what the advantages of Lasek are, they are that you don't have a permanent flap cut into your cornea. There is a greater risk of corneal haze with Lasek, but this is pretty low in prescriptions below -6, I think. There is more pain post-surgery, but in the big scheme of things, it's pretty short lived). Don't go ahead if you think you might worry about the consequences for the rest of your life!...

Florin · 22/12/2010 23:52

He is One of the top eye Specialist and obviously keeps fully up to date with procedures and the latest papers as you would expect any good doctor to do. He would never completly close his mind to something. He looks into it regularly as my dh is desperate for something to make his life easier but he still won't agree to it. There are some permanent contact lenses he is also looking into. His wife also works in the eye department in the same eye specialist in a top London hospital. I don't claim to be any sort of expert on it but we join the eye department for drinks after work most weeks and you look round the table and most of them are wearing glasses nobody I know there has had it done I think that says a lot more than just googling it.

slopingsite · 23/12/2010 00:04

I had a conversation with an optician friend probably about 5 years ago. She said (at that time) no members of the professional body of optometrists had had laser eye surgery, which to me speaks volumes. I was v disappointed to hear this news as I am about a -7.00, and feel your pain re: inconvenience/cost of being short-sighted.

I also have a feeling that if you've had it, you can't have the operation to treat cateracts in later life (although don't quote me on this bit, I could have dreamt it :o)

All in all, I am,, with florin on this.

rabbitstew · 23/12/2010 09:11

Yes, you can have cataract operations later on, provided all the records of your laser eye procedure, measurements, etc, have been kept. And yes, eye surgeons and optometrists have had it done. But no, many would actively choose not to have it done and are still dubious. As I said, there are still eye specialists out there who think you are an idiot to wear soft contact lenses - but then they only ever see the problems, don't they, that's why they are specialists... and soft contact lenses haven't been around for long enough, either.

You have to make your own decisions and take your own risks at the end of the day. It certainly isn't something I would have touched with a barge pole until very recently. And even though I've had it done, and am currently very happy, I am fully aware that in the next 50 years I may not be so happy about it - but then I wasn't happy with the dangers of being totally reliant on glasses with small children to look after either, particularly anywhere near water, and made the choice to have good vision while I really needed it and possibly risk dangers and misery in old age, if the technology hasn't advanced enough by then to deal with any future complications. But then I used to imagine being blind in old age, anyway...

Karoleann · 23/12/2010 14:41

I'm an optometrist and know plenty of optometrists (opticians) who've had the procedure done. I worked in a laser clinic for several years - quite a few of the surgeons had it done too.

You can have a cataract op done later in life, but the measurement for calculating the power of the lens to go in the eye is a little more complicated. Generally if there is any sign of cataract pre-operatively they wouldn't do it.

I wouldn't recommend having lasek at -5.25 as your risk of regression and haze is much higher than lower prescriptions.

You can now also have the lasik flap cut with a laser rather than a blade and this improves safety considerably.

Saying that the eye is still weaker than an eye that hasn't had surgery and the flap never heals to the same degree as before so if you play any contact sport its not the best thing to do.

Personally if I was -5.00 I wouldn't hesitate to have it done. You will need to wear reading glasses later in life due to normal aging changes in the eye, unless they undercorrect one eye - pros and cons to this.

Go for a consult in a few places and don't be tempted to sign up before having a think about it. Moorfields isn't neccessarily the best.

rabbitstew · 23/12/2010 16:57

slopingsite - are you aware of how much extra it will cost you to have a -7 prescription in ultra thin plastic once you start needing bifocals?

cathbath · 29/12/2010 09:19

Thanks all - that is encouraging. After considering this for about 12 years I don't want to leave it any longer.

Karleann, thanks, that was really helplful. So I'm probably looking at LASIK, and having the flap cut with a laser rather than a blade.

I am considering going to Ultralase in Bristol, or possibly Optimax (there don't seem to be that many choices in Bristol?). Has anyone had any experience of these places?

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