I got another phone call from Kangaboy school this morning he had fainted again

[RTKangaMummy]

I got another phone call from Kangaboy school this morning he had fainted again

last november he fainted and had a convulsion

He is now 10 years old and in class 6.

Today he had been working doing his English at his desk, then the whole class were moving about and then they saw that he was flat out on the floor {on his tummy}

He had bumped his forehead.

So they took him down corridor to sick room, he was talking, but very dizzy, his colour came back to him, while he was lying down.

They tried to get him to stand up but he was too dizzy so lay down again.

They phoned at 9.45 and said they were going to ring again after about 15 mins to tell me how he was, so I ring DH and then watch the clock minute by minute. Then decide I will ring at 10.05 if they don't ring me but they ring at me 10.04 and tell me to come and collect him.

So I drive there {only 5 minutes away - with no traffic}

He is lying there with ice/cold pack on his bump on forehead.

They tell me he deffo did not have convulsion.

He can't remember what happened.

SO ring Drs and get appointment for 5.30 with Dr G but then decide that is too long so ring again and ask for Dr R and she says if I can get him there I can be seen in 15 mins, so get back ing car and drive to see Dr R.

{Our GP Dr B is on holiday}

Tell him the History, he reads all the letters from consultant Paed etc.

Consultant says he wants to know if anymore faints etc happen again.

And says he will write to Consultant and ask him to see DS again.

So Kangaboy is at home, he hads eaten lunch, {He had a good normal breakfast} he is playing normally.

He now just has a mother who is totally neurotic and not sure what to do with herself really.

I am glad it happened at school really cos after last november they now know it can happen again, rather than it happening at home and us telling them IYSWIM.

I just hope this won't happen again.

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I used to faint when I was a teenager due to low pressure, though if I stand up suddenly after being laying down I would faint as well. It was due to low blood pressure, I took some drops for that for several years but since we moved to colder England I don't need them anymore

Is Kangaboy a tall boy?

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He is on 75th percentile for height and weight

But DH and I are quite tall. DH is 6' and I am 5'8"

So tallish but there are lots of his friends taller

But he hasn't suddenly shot up in height IYSWIM

Thanks socci

RTKM, no experience of fainting (except DH did it once in a restaurant - was vagus nerve related which is pretty common - basically a hiccup or sneeze or cough that triggers the vagus nerve, which makes you faint) - just wanted to say I was thinking of you - tis worrying xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks HM

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I faint due to low bp (it was 85/56 last time it was measured - I'm nearly dead!) and anaemia, Kanga. Glad ds is snuggled up in bed now.

I used to faint at school too and my blood pressure was fine and I didnt seem to anemic either tho the doc did give me an iron tonic anyway.

Does he feel the faint coming on at all tho? I used to and if I managed to get outside and sit down I wouldnt faint. For me Id get tunnel vison and my hearing would focus on one particular sound and then Id know and ask to leave. Does he get anything like that?

Thanks guys

He doesn't remember what happened beforehand really

He does remember being very dizzy afterwards so perhaps I can explain to him that if he feels dizzy he should sit down or get fresh air.

We are going to get his BP checked hopefully tomorrow at chemist and then get his blood tested at GPs next week.

I am not sure if the nurses at the GP surgery will take blood from 10 year old or if we will have to go to hospital to Paed dept.

When he was a baby after he came home from Neo Natal Unit he has Iron liquid added into his milk. Perhaps we will ask his GP if he should do that again.

I have got a wrist cuff BP monitor thing but his wrist is a biot too small for it to work properly

You guys have been sooooooo supportive and are really deffo brill

Thank you for all your kind words

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Thanks for asking

He is ok

The bump on his forehead has gone down

He still doesn't remember what happened

hi kanga,hope your son is well now.YOu could just have had a bad experience and it will get better with time dont need to say healthy diet etc.GOOD LUCK.

RTKM

I've only just seen this thread (and the one last November). Hope you don't mind if I add my thoughts. It sounds as though kangaboy has a tendency to faint (also known as vasovagal or syncopal episodes/attacks). I'm afraid I don't know much about causes of fainting specific to children but I do spend my working days dealing with dizzy old ladies.

A crazy piece of research was performed once on some European medical students. Over 100 students were made to faint by squatting and standing until they fell over. They were videoed doing this. A huge proportion of them (my memeory fails for the exact number, but maybe up to 70%) had some form of convulsive movement after falling. None of them had epilepsy, ie the tendency to have recueent fits due to abnormal brainwave activity

There are loads of factors which help differentiate epilepsy from fainting and other causes of funny turns. There are no definite tests. like all things human there are many grey areas.

Hope that kangaboy is feeling better. If I can help any more with this please feel free to CAT me

Thanks guys

He has been ok since

Hi RTKangaMummy

Ihave not been to talk for a while and have just seen this conversation. (sorry a little rusty)

when I was very little and into my teens I used to faint for no reason that my parents knew I did not have fits or convulsions I would only pass out. I now suffer from migraine attacks. While being checked out to try to control these I was told that my passing out when I was young could have been caused by a migraine (seems that you may not have a head ache but a sympton can be to pass out). It may not be anything but Kangaboy may suffer from migraines. just thought I would let you know what I was told it may help it may not, I just thought it was worth telling you.

Thanks

he had a headache before the faint and convulsion last year

but this last one there was no warning

Neither DH or I have headaches or migraines

Only just noticed this thread so sorry for adding to it rather late.

Further down, zippitippitoes gave some very good info about RAS and the STARS charity. Although I agree it does not sound like RAS (my 6yr old has had RAS since just after birth and I have been a supporter of/volunteer with STARS for a few years),I just wanted to point out that you may still find the STARS charity very helpful. They cover a multitude of issues relating to various types of blackouts/faints/seizures and are also involved with the Arrhythmia Alliance and all the associated conditions covered by that.

So, again, I would urge you to consider contacting them for advice (even if only to help rule out a number of possibilities or suggest further steps to take. Here is a link to their website .

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