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Am I bringing these symptoms on myself? Depression / Anxiety

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feelingcrappy · 06/10/2010 10:28

I've got a 3 yo DS and 1 yo DD. Since DD's birth 12 months ago have had an endless string of health complaints - each involving very real pain and discomfort but after thorough testing are found to have no apparent cause.

With each episode I am convinced something is seriously wrong with me, my appetite disappears, I sleep badly and I begin trawling the internet to self-diagnose. The negative test results assure me for a while, but the symptoms never really go away. The most debilitating thing is chronic lightheadedness that I have now had for over 3 months. My GP has suggested that I may be depressed. I know it's a cliche, but I have no reason to be - could this be PND? (I have no ill-feeling towards my children - just very anxious about my own health). Also, can depression cause you to feel physical pain? Thanks in advance for any replies - have also posted in mental health, sorry if repeating myself.

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ppeatfruit · 06/10/2010 12:40

You could be wheat intolerant try giving it up for a week or so (you can have ryvitas and or bread, rice etc.). Also high sugar in yr diet could give you the feeling. HTH

phipps · 06/10/2010 18:32

If you are unhappy emotionally then I do think that can have a physical result. WRT the light headiness are you eating and drinking sufficiently?

BigMommaOf4 · 06/10/2010 18:55

I have had this lightheadedness for 5 years now feelingcrappy Sad and I too find it the most debilitating of my anxiety 'symptons'. I have also had loads of tests including a CT scan Blush all normal.

Have a look at the nomorepanic.co.uk website and type in lightheaded in the search engine and you will see how common it is.

I find that the more angry and frustrated I feel about it the worse it is. Seems to tail off in the evening though.

I am currently trying out some supplements which include a good B vit complex and a Chinese herb called Schizandra to see if they will help in conjunction with exercise to burn off the excess adrenaline which I suspect is what the lightheadness is a sympton of - too much adrenaline.

BigMommaOf4 · 06/10/2010 19:00

Also look up Claire Weekes books on Amazon. They are very cheap - Self Help for your Nerves and Peace from Nervous Suffering. Excellent stuff and really helpful.

lazycow007 · 06/10/2010 19:11

Hi Hon, there was a very interesting thread also within this subject called "Anxiety without depression". We all thrashed out our experiences and how we coped so take a look at that.

When you are experiencing anxiety or depression you get very real physical symptoms as it is a chemical imbalance within your body and head. I seriously thought i was severely ill and had numerous tests with no results and it was all anxiety related as DD had been extremely ill.

I hope you get some help soon and let me know if that thread has gone as i will say what we discovered helped!

feelingcrappy · 06/10/2010 20:02

Thank you for all your time. Those closest to me have been suggesting that I'm depressed for a while but I couldn't accept that my constant stomach aches; light headedness; lump in throat and now, would you believe it, vulval pain were not symptomatic of some chronic physical condition. With each niew ailment I would think this will be the missing piece of the jigsaw and the doctors will finally unravel what's going on with me. I'm facing up to the possibility that anxiety is the root cause. I have a follow-up with my GP next week, he's been dancing round a depression diagnosis but I think it's time I had a proper conversation with him about it.

Will look up those other threads, god, I had no idea I was so suggestable - it's pretty scary what you can convince yourself of.

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momino · 07/10/2010 13:44

feelingcrappy, I could have written your OP a couple of years ago.

again, real symptoms (abdom pain, intestinal things - won't describe!- lump in throat, chest pain...), real pain, but had tests which were all clear.

this started when i had a 2yr old and 1 year old and was diagnosed with PND. counsellor really helped as did reading some self-help books. do look on the threads here for help(i'll do the same!). I've been symptomless for a few months now except for a very sore throat right now. I'm doing my best to assure myself it's a simple sore throat we've been passing around the family and not anything sinister!

HOpe you're feeling better soon.

lazycow007 · 07/10/2010 13:52

Momino - I do the same as you, over think the sore throat or whatever. My DH has said that i will never go down with the serious panic attacks/anxiety again as i will know to look out for the signs. It has been 4 years and touch wood i have only had what i call "funny 5 minutes" moments. Anything that puts stress and pressure on me i start to feel funny (i don't mean normal day to day worries but tax return deadlines or a hospital appoint with DD) but i then sit down and breathe calmly and it subsides. I do take kalms when i feel the need and they help.

I really do empathise fully with you all Smile

momino · 07/10/2010 14:07

lazycow, I think the worst is over for me as well (thank god!) but I still worry I'll fall into that hole again. It does help to breathe deeply and know what the signs are. And, it does help to know that I'm not alone (even though I don't want anyone else going through this Smile).

I've heard of Kalms but never tried, might do.

Take care.

ppeatfruit · 07/10/2010 14:22

Changing what you eat does often improve people's health eg. my DH stops eating wheat and in 2 days he's feeling totally different he can sleep prperly, his whole mood lightens, and no aches and pains.

vintagebaby · 07/10/2010 16:41

i'm a nutritionist and even the birth of my baby and had
huge anxiety issues due to endless lack of sleep and not much help...
I thought this would help you...
Stress is a basic coping mechanism that allows humans to adapt in order to address short-term immediate dangers. Stress leads to increased vulnerability to probelms including those of the skin. Acute stress is a one-time stimulus that triggers the ?fight or flight' response in humans. The Adrenals produce anti inflammatory steroids (corticosteroids) and the stress hormones, cortisol and adrenaline. However, too much Cortisol in the body ( i.e when we are constantly stressed) will effect the amount of Seratonin and Dopamine we produce leaving us with low moods, increased lack of sleep and anxiety and Skin probelms.
Stress and the Appearance of Your Skin
When a person becomes stressed, the level of the body's stress hormone (cortisol) rises.
Cortisol, in turn, causes problem skin, acne and other related skin problems.
Effective treatment of the adrenal glands leads to optimal functioning of the entire endocrine (hormonal and sexual) and immune system. The adrenal gland has a profound effect on sex and thyroid hormones, glucose relations and the immune system.
The adrenal glands are chiefly responsible for regulating our bodies response to stress. They are also involved with immune response, regulation of inflammation, and carbohydrate metabolism. Suffice it to say the adrenal glands are important! They produce anti inflammatory steroids (corticosteroids) and the stress hormones, cortisol and adrenaline.
Stress, a diet high in refined carbohydrates, excessive caffeine and sugar intake, and nutrient deficiencies conspire to ensure that depleted or exhausted adrenals is napparent.
Low blood sugar is common during adrenal exhaustion. This is normally due to the combination of cortisol and high insulin levels when the body is under stress. The normal stress response by the adrenals is to increase blood glucose level. As the output of cortisol reduces in adrenal exhaustion, glucose released is slowed. This slowing, along with high insulin level, leads to increased demand for glucose. As cellular energy demand is not being met by blood glucose, the body will turn to protein and fat as source of energy. This pathway is not as efficient but is nevertheless put on overdrive in order to provide the much needed energy.
People with Adrenal exhaustion often find themselves in a no win situation. When they are under stress (even a mild stress such as a mild argument or excessive homework), demand for blood glucose increases, but their exhausted adrenals cannot produce enough cortisol to generate higher glucose levels from reserves. In the presence of increased insulin and decreased cortisol, blood sugar drops rapidly.

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