People who *always* vote for the same party.

[ToriesDelendaEst]

If you always vote for the same party - regardless of policies, people or track record - then how hard do you think that party will work to get your vote ?

Remember, these are people who always vote for the same party - you sometimes see them pop up in vox pops. Their vote isn't conditional on the party they vote for doing anything apart from just existing,

How's that working our for you ?

I always vote for the same party too. Labour in my case. They (generally) align with my fundamental beliefs and values which the Tories never would or could. I also find it completely baffling how someone can switch from Labour to Tory, or vice versa. It's chalk and cheese.

This baffles me. I heard a woman on the to who 'would never vote anything but Tory' but who then went on to say 'even though they have made a massive hash of the last 14 years'. Why? Are these people missing the point of us having a free democracy? I just don't get it?

I vote for the party that most closely aligns with my ethics and beliefs. I don't expect to agree with everything they say and do. It's always the same party. I would be amazed if that changed.

For me it's ABC (anything but Conservative)! The lib Dems have the best chance of getting our local MP out so I will vote for them. Sadly I don't think they will win.
I really really can't comprehend the "I've always voted for x & will never change".
Why? I don't really care who you vote for but please, please do it for the right reasons.

I actually think that most people (including Labour voters and Conservative voters) want similar broad-brush-stroke things from the government: good management of the economy and strong public services which support everyone to live their life well.

But people have very different ideas about which policies will actually achieve that. And also different ideas about what makes a good and fair society (balancing allowing people to benefit from their own endeavors vs protection of the vulnerable and balancing personal autonomy vs 'big state' stewardship)

You're right to a degree that people's priorities/lives change - in that your awareness of different areas and perspective on which policies will be effective will change over your lifetime, as you experience more of the world and understand things differently.

But I think that parties change enormously over time - with different leadership, and also in the context of a changing world - which means that if you have a reasonably centrist worldview then I'd expect that if you overlay each parties policies with your own beliefs then the closest match will vary at different times.

I think that if you always vote for the same party then your views are either quite extreme, or your understanding of the world is quite blinkered, or else you're voting in an entirely partisan way (which isn't very effective for democracy).

Ah sorry, I drifted away from your point @Bobbybobbins

I've voted for all 3 of the main parties. Whilst my worldview has changed over time (less optimistic/naive than I used to be, and a better understanding of economics) my values haven't fundamentally changed.

The parties on the other hand have fundamentally changed at different points during that time frame. Blair's Labour (which I voted for) was much closer to Cameron's Conservatives (which I also voted for) than it was to Corbyn's Labour (which I could never vote for, with it's Student-politics, reactive desire to just break our country)

I think that if you always vote for the same party then your views are either quite extreme, or your understanding of the world is quite blinkered, or else you're voting in an entirely partisan way

Or you have an immutable belief in the kind of society you want to live in and pass on to your children and only one party accords with that. That doesn’t seem particularly extreme or blinkered to me. In my case it’s not partisan either. As I said I find the Green’ policies very appealing but they’re only a realistic electoral choice in a booming economy and we’re living in one that’s bust.

Have you never wondered why other people vote differently from you? Do you think they have a fundamentally different view of a good society than you? (which would surely mean that your views were extremist)

Or do you think they are all evil and selfish? In which case, why does the party majority change over time?

I didn’t mention a good society. I made no value judgement at all. I was quite specific about it being the kind of society I want to live in and pass on to my children. In the 52 years I’ve been able to vote that hasn’t changed and has only been represented by one party.

The 'society you want to live in and pass on to your children' is surely your definition of a good society. It's just mincing words to say you're not passing a value judgement.

Good society = how you want society to be

You could have an argument in a paper bag, couldn’t you? I’m not indulging you.

This is a discussion forum, and I think the joy of it is in reading views different from your own, and the way that makes you think about things and read around.

But of course I'm happy for us to leave the discussion.

Yes, it's odd how so many have turned. I'm especially disappointed in Angela Rayner. I used to love her, but she's turned her back on Jeremy Corbyn and the left. Such a sellout.
I'm a lefty, so personally can't vote Labour again this time (I voted Labour in 2017 and 2019). The Green Party are getting my vote this time. I know they're not perfect either, but it's a peaceful protest vote as much as anything.

Both the main parties , especially the Tories, have a hard core support base who will back them no matter what.

Even if they are involved in one scandal after another, crash the economy, break every single manifest pledge & make a shambles of Country, they will still vote for them and use the excuse "the other lot will be worse".

I was watching a podcast by Sam Coates ( i think) recently and he was in one of strongest Tory areas around and same old lines trotted out. One lady even said she knew they had been useless and made a mess of things but she would still vote for them. She even went as far as saying she wished Boris was still in charge because even though he was a liar he had charisma lol.

So yes even if logically it makes no sense some people will never change their vote in entire lifetime no matter what their party does in Govt. I actually blame this attitude for reasons our parties are so morally bankrupt (especially the Tories) as they know they can do anything and a large section of voters will still re-elect them anyway!

I think I have more or less always voted for the same party at General Elections.

But I have voted for several different parties at local and European parliament elections.

It depends on where you live, the local issues, and if you live in a safe or marginal seat.