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General election 2024

Would you use private HC for self/loved ones if you could afford it??

113 replies

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 09/06/2024 10:28

If you, or your loved ones were suffering from painy/worry/anxiety etc and awaiting an operation or a scan etc and worried sick and or could not work but an operation would get you back to your normal self - or, a scan etc would rule out/in any concerns etc - would you or your loved ones use private health care??

I guess the majority of people who could afford it or were so fed up with the waiting would even borrow a few quid and go for the checks/ops regardless of their political affiliations

In your judgement, would you consider it a very blinkered view to just say "no" to private HC even as a one off for family/you for reasons given above

Read about the "blinkered ideology" of the left. When I heard him say that, the first thing that came to mind was one of your children suffering from severe toothache and now NHS dental appts for weeks - most would pay privately.
I know of people that are not rich but have paid for scans and eye ops and a few are labour voters.

This is what a Labour guy believes

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13509751/Sir-Keir-Starmer-accused-using-blinkered-left-wing-ideology-refusing-private-healthcare-Labour-voters-use-it.html

Starmer accused of 'blinkered left-wing ideology'

Sir Keir Starmer insisted the NHS 'runs through my DNA' and refused to use private healthcare, but a YouGov poll showed 72 per cent of Labour Party supporters would use the private sector if they could.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13509751/Sir-Keir-Starmer-accused-using-blinkered-left-wing-ideology-refusing-private-healthcare-Labour-voters-use-it.html

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Tiredalwaystired · 09/06/2024 10:41

Sadly we’ve done this and got private health insurance. We redirected the money we saved when the Tories reduced NI plus we switched out another old insurance policy to cover it.

I would much rather that the NI has been used to benefit more people than just my family but having just had major surgery and made it though the postcode lottery ok on this occasion I wouldn’t want any of my family to go through that level of pain for any length of time. Also if operations are months and months delayed it can be false economy if it means one of you being off work in the interim.

I would give it back up tomorrow if the NHS could right itself.

Alarae · 09/06/2024 10:46

A family member was having medical concerns but NHS was taking ages to even schedule scans, so went private. That showed cancer, so sent to NHS with consultants opinion of what it said. As the cancer affected a couple of areas, it was referred to the multi-disciplinary team.

Ended up going private for an operation, who then started the chemo plan, within a couple of weeks. The family member had already started the chemo (via NHS, as private surgeon referred back to implement the course) and was on their second dose before the multi-disciplinary team even came back with a response.

While ultimately my family member passed a year later, they would not have had that extra year due to the delays under the NHS (would not have been eligible for the surgery as they were just on the cusp when it happened under private) I always thought it was meant to be brilliant whenever cancer was involved but unfortunately that was not the case here.

MaryFuckingFerguson · 09/06/2024 10:50

We have used our private healthcare numerous times, both for diagnostics and surgeries. Don’t think twice about doing so.

Flidina · 09/06/2024 11:11

We have recently taken out private health care. I had gastric bypass surgery here in UK last year and difference between NHS and private was amazing. This prompted me to look into private health care and I would much rather invest in this than put the money into savings.

Jeezitneverends · 09/06/2024 11:13

We don’t have insurance but have paid for private treatment, it was worth every penny

KnittedCardi · 09/06/2024 11:19

We do a mix. We had insurance through work, DH now retired, so we self pay. Always used private dentists. Personally I believe if you can pay, you should, why not? All the local consultants work in both sectors, and they are pretty flexible in moving between the two depending on need or cost.

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 09/06/2024 11:31

Assuming money is no object, I would not use private health care for anything big. Not because of cost, but because I don’t trust it.

I would use it for something straightforward, e.g., hip replacement.

Ilikewinter · 09/06/2024 11:35

Yes of course I would, and I dont believe for one minute that Starmer wouldnt use private healthcare!. We've just joined Bupa via DH work.

ActivePeony · 09/06/2024 12:00

Ilikewinter · 09/06/2024 11:35

Yes of course I would, and I dont believe for one minute that Starmer wouldnt use private healthcare!. We've just joined Bupa via DH work.

Yes I agree. There will be lots of digging going on by journos and they will find something which proves that he has not been truthful - they always do.

Another76543 · 09/06/2024 12:04

I find it hard to believe anyone (assuming they had the money) who says they would prefer to see their close family suffering and in pain than use the private sector.

Tiredalwaystired · 09/06/2024 12:05

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 09/06/2024 11:31

Assuming money is no object, I would not use private health care for anything big. Not because of cost, but because I don’t trust it.

I would use it for something straightforward, e.g., hip replacement.

You can have private healthcare in NHS hospitals too, often with the same team or majority of the team that would do it on the NHS.

nearlysummerhooray · 09/06/2024 12:06

Of course, and I have. Starmer was a bit silly in his reply to that one.

ActivePeony · 09/06/2024 12:06

Tiredalwaystired · 09/06/2024 12:05

You can have private healthcare in NHS hospitals too, often with the same team or majority of the team that would do it on the NHS.

Yes but often at the end of a very long wait.

anniegun · 09/06/2024 12:07

Yes but it is not a choice for many. We need an NHS that functions and that means voting out the Tories

Tiredalwaystired · 09/06/2024 12:09

ActivePeony · 09/06/2024 12:06

Yes but often at the end of a very long wait.

Why any longer than in the private sector? That’s not been my experience.

Tiredalwaystired · 09/06/2024 12:11

ActivePeony · 09/06/2024 12:06

Yes but often at the end of a very long wait.

Ah I think you misunderstood me. A lot of NHS hospitals enable their consultants to run their private practice through NHS hospitals at the end of their NHS lists. The profits from care go back to the NHS hospital. All the London hospitals do it and many others across the country offer private care in some services.

frankentall · 09/06/2024 12:18

This is a mean-spirited thread. I have used private medicine as I had no choice due to right wing destruction of the NHS.
The question for a leader who is trying to defend the NHS is a little different - perhaps he should have made it clear that he might have to given there is fuck all else in some areas due to Troy destruction, but his answer wasn't some communist plot, he is reinforcing the point that Tories want us all to have to pay and the NHS to be minimal.

EwwSprouts · 09/06/2024 12:18

And yet Wes Streeting is saying Labour would put NHS staff through private healthcare if it got them back to work sooner? Not very joined up policy.

Yes I would use it if was in pain and impacting ability to go to work. My DDad just had a private eye op because the waiting list was over 12 months and at best the success of the surgery would be less after such a long wait and at worst he could have lost his sight at any time while on the waiting list.

Singleandproud · 09/06/2024 12:22

I went private for DDs ASD assessment as 4+year wait on NHS if she even would have been accepted on the list. 6 week wait instead report in hand after 2 and the result being DD no longer felt she was losing her mind and allowed her MH to recover. I dread what would have happened had she had to wait.

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 09/06/2024 12:22

anniegun · 09/06/2024 12:07

Yes but it is not a choice for many. We need an NHS that functions and that means voting out the Tories

I dunno about that. Wales has been controlled by a majority Labour government since devolution, and our NHS is even worse than the shambles across the border in England.

frankentall · 09/06/2024 12:23

Oh and the cunty tax-dodging Daily Mail can fuck off.
'blinkered left-wing ideology'
As opposed to the blinkered nasty right wing proto-facism they prefer and endorse presumably

frankentall · 09/06/2024 12:24

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 09/06/2024 12:22

I dunno about that. Wales has been controlled by a majority Labour government since devolution, and our NHS is even worse than the shambles across the border in England.

All (not properly) funded by 14 years of Tory attacks on something they don't use and don't really believe in.

ActivePeony · 09/06/2024 12:28

Tiredalwaystired · 09/06/2024 12:09

Why any longer than in the private sector? That’s not been my experience.

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ActivePeony · 09/06/2024 12:30

frankentall · 09/06/2024 12:18

This is a mean-spirited thread. I have used private medicine as I had no choice due to right wing destruction of the NHS.
The question for a leader who is trying to defend the NHS is a little different - perhaps he should have made it clear that he might have to given there is fuck all else in some areas due to Troy destruction, but his answer wasn't some communist plot, he is reinforcing the point that Tories want us all to have to pay and the NHS to be minimal.

No he wasn't. He was saying that he will never use private health care for him or his family - the question was very simple.

ActivePeony · 09/06/2024 12:31

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 09/06/2024 12:22

I dunno about that. Wales has been controlled by a majority Labour government since devolution, and our NHS is even worse than the shambles across the border in England.

Yes this is often forgotten - and the spend per head is higher I believe.

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