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General election 2024

Why is there no coverage of reform party policies ?

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Alfreddoeblin · 06/06/2024 18:26

Just that really. Labour and Tory party to a greater or lesser extent are being scrutinised hugely. The reform party not so much. Why ?

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LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 06/06/2024 18:29

I'm assuming because they don't actually have any policies

Bongosbanjo · 06/06/2024 18:36

They're irrelevant with no real policies. We will have a tory or labour government next month hence the focus being on their policies.

AgathaX · 06/06/2024 18:37

They're a toy party. They don't have real policies and don't want to be in power, not at this stage anyway.

Maddy70 · 06/06/2024 18:39

They are a businesa not a political party. Farage is on everything surely he's mentioned what his policies are by now other than cause division and make money for himself

noblegiraffe · 06/06/2024 18:42

Not seen much on the Lib Dems either.

fromtheshires · 06/06/2024 18:45

I have just had a look at their policies. They call them a 'draft contract' as they will only finalise them later in the year. Basically they have no manifesto.

A lot of ideas sound 'great on paper' (no endorsement on any policy or my views) but as always, 'great on paper' and practical, sustainable and achievable are very different things. I fail to see how the can cut so many taxes and increase spending at the same time.

Largely Reform are irrelevant at the moment and they may get a couple of MP's but they aren't worth wasting time on writing about when it's really between the big two parties.

YellowHairband · 06/06/2024 18:45

I've seen far more of Farage than I have of, for example, Siân Berry.

But they don't really have any serious policies to scrutinise, nor are they going to be in a position to carry out any plans.

BiggerBoat1 · 06/06/2024 18:46

Basically no immigration blah blah blah casual racism blah blah smattering of homophobia blah blah Farage for King of the World.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2024 18:49

I checked out their website and their “policies” are a joke, clearly formulated in the certain knowledge that they’ll never have to enact them.

Alfreddoeblin · 07/06/2024 18:36

I’m worried they’ll just soak up ex labour red wall cores in the North. I think unless the media really scrutinise them a huge swing to reform will be massively destabilising.

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fromtheshires · 08/06/2024 11:47

Alfreddoeblin · 07/06/2024 18:36

I’m worried they’ll just soak up ex labour red wall cores in the North. I think unless the media really scrutinise them a huge swing to reform will be massively destabilising.

To be fair, after watching farage and his pantomime performance last night i don't think we have a lot to worry about. He was embarrasing

BIossomtoes · 08/06/2024 11:49

fromtheshires · 08/06/2024 11:47

To be fair, after watching farage and his pantomime performance last night i don't think we have a lot to worry about. He was embarrasing

I disagree. He puts the fear of God in me. He’s so damned credible. He spoke well and sounded reasonable. I think we’ve got a great deal to worry about.

BiggerBoat1 · 08/06/2024 11:50

Unfortunately people do seem to buy the garbage he spouts. The SNP politician had it spot on when he called him a Snake Oil Salesman.

Spendonsend · 08/06/2024 11:55

I think they should be scrutinised too.i have similar concerns op.

I am not dismissing them. Lots of people I know voted brexit, then for boris's get brexit done and are now posting vote reform stuff.

Floccy · 08/06/2024 11:57

BIossomtoes · 08/06/2024 11:49

I disagree. He puts the fear of God in me. He’s so damned credible. He spoke well and sounded reasonable. I think we’ve got a great deal to worry about.

It's not just him, the others speakers just don't get it and play into his hands. First thing the SNP guy did was call him a bigot. Why do that? It just allows him to present himself as the reasoned one. He's actually quite easy to dismember by spitting facts at him but people just throw emotion around all the time.

KnittedCardi · 08/06/2024 12:09

Ignore them at your peril. You only have to look at Europe where these previously fringe right wing parties are likely to be in the majority in Brussels this year. It's fascinating how we are going the other way. Basically whoever has been in power over the last five years, in whichever fou try if the world is being ousted for COVID, COL etc etc

fromtheshires · 08/06/2024 12:30

I think the only reason people buy into him is because he says what people 'want to hear'.

His pantomime behaviour shouting over the others continually shows what a trump-esque wannabe he really is.

Sadly I did agree with him on the NHS and giving them more money just pushes up the higher ups pay packets and promotes waste and it needs proper reform.

I work public sector and the mentality at the end of the year is use it or lose it so 'we' waste so much money as goes on rushed vanity projects of managers (name badge redesign as an example) and not where its actually needed throughout the year. Heaven forbid if i need some money from a 'pot' with excess to help fund my empty 'pot'. It cant be used as it hasn't been assigned to that pot, it's madness. We also have to use 'preferred suppliers'. A real example is i wanted 10 folders. Found them on amazon for £14 but was told I had to use a 'preferred supplier' which cost £45 and took longer to arrive.

Some sort of radical strategic reform is needed but anyone who tries to touch it to fix the mess is going to get slaughtered.

BIossomtoes · 08/06/2024 12:37

His pantomime behaviour shouting over the others continually shows what a trump-esque wannabe he really is.

But he didn’t do that last night. He was calm and measured. There was one participant who shouted over the others - and the host - and that was Mordaunt. This is a very, very dangerous man who sounds reasonable. Frankly he terrifies me because with the country in such an unholy mess and his unerring instinct for homing in on population level concerns, he’s way too credible for my taste.

pointythings · 08/06/2024 12:46

Farage speaks extremely well, but however many seats Reform get, they are unlikely to be good constituency MPs, especially Farage himself. He likes the media spotlight but not the hard work.

Reform are taking far more votes from the Tories than from Labour. They bear watching, but they aren't inevitable.

In the Netherlands, the left have done very well in the EU elections despite voting for Wilders last year. The right can be fought.

LlynTegid · 08/06/2024 12:54

I think their policies have had coverage.

BobbyBiscuits · 08/06/2024 12:55

Because they are an absolute sham. It's just Farage parading about being an arse. They have no policies and aren't even a political party.
If Farage is questioned about his policies by journalists he just says 'pass' or tells them they are boring. Well, that happened in one interview I saw anyway!

Ted27 · 08/06/2024 13:03

@noblegiraffe

Ed Davey has had quite a lot of coverage jumping off paddle boards in Lake Windermere and other stunts go highlight particular policies.
There was even some coverage when he had a day off to look after his son which I thought was a good way to highlight carers' issues
I've also seen quite a lot of Daisy Cooper.

Floccy · 08/06/2024 20:56

I think the only reason people buy into him is because he says what people 'want to hear'.


Not sure about that. He speaks a lot of truths which others don't want to hear. He also talks a lot of sense about some things like exporting our emissions.

It's the solutions he's proposing to these problems that's the real issue. People buy into the fact that because he's willing to address the problems he's able to solve them. This is not the case at all.

noblegiraffe · 08/06/2024 20:57

Ted27 · 08/06/2024 13:03

@noblegiraffe

Ed Davey has had quite a lot of coverage jumping off paddle boards in Lake Windermere and other stunts go highlight particular policies.
There was even some coverage when he had a day off to look after his son which I thought was a good way to highlight carers' issues
I've also seen quite a lot of Daisy Cooper.

That's the thing, I've seen the stunts but not the policies!

I guess everyone is just waiting for the manifestos to be published.

Why is there no coverage of reform party policies ?
1dayatatime · 08/06/2024 21:23

From what I've seen the three main parties policies are:

Conservatives : "look OK we may have cocked things up wholesale over the past 14 years but if you just give us one more chance we'll try get it right, - well maybe cos we don't have any real plan on how to do this "

Labour: " vote for us because we're not the Conservatives, OK we don't have any real plan on how we would do things any better but look at the Conservatives they really cocked things up"

Liberals: "vote for us because we're not the Conservatives and in this previously particular strong conservative constituency the voters can't quite stomach switching from Conservative to Labour so we'll give you a half way house. Not that we have any plan on how we would do things any better but look at the Conservatives they really cocked things up"

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