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General election 2024

Ex Green Party Members and Supporters

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Cattenberg · 04/06/2024 11:41

I first joined the Green Party about ten years ago. I believe that the Climate Crisis is the biggest challenge currently facing the world and that we’re rapidly running out of time to prevent the worst effects. I’m also a lefty who wants to see a fairer, more equitable society. I spent a good few hours delivering Green Party leaflets for the 2015 General Election campaign. However, I stopped renewing my membership after the party started referring to women as “non-men” and due to the shameful mishandling of the Challenor scandal.

I rejoined in 2021 in the hope that the subsequent leadership elections would enable the party to get back on track. That hasn’t happened however and I’m dismayed by the way some GC feminists within the Green Party have been treated. So last month, I cancelled my membership and can’t see myself re-joining.

I just feel so disappointed in them. We need a party which is fully focused on the environment (and the goal of creating a fairer world is inseparable from that, in my opinion). We really need a Green Party and here they are, pissing about with identity politics and dividing people who ought to be working together.

Do any other ex Greens want to comment? Who do you think you might vote for on 4th July? I’m undecided.

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Thisagainandagain · 04/06/2024 12:49

Thanks for this

I voted Green at the last election and on an off previously.

They also lost me when I became nothing more than a non-man. The Cass report is important. There are many vulnerable young people who need help not pushing down the medical intervention route. Counselling services for mental health in children is appalling.

Sophie Sparkles who has quite a history of online poster (I won't go onto details) made them a joke. I'm not a cervix haver, a bleeder or an inconvenience to be shoved aside so that a man who has to merely pronounce he is now female is treated as one.

Women need their own sports, safe spaces and other protection from men. I have seen a number of men say they have changed sex (you cannot do that) and gained access to women and girls. It's not right and I will never support that.

SomersetBrie · 04/06/2024 12:49

I agree with you. Greens have no chance where I live but I regularly vote for them in local elections where they do fare better (they don't get in but it's closer).
I'll be voting to oust my Tory MP, who had a very narrow win last time.
I feel the Greens have let women down more than the other parties as they seem kind of gloating rather than just inept on that issue.

Thisagainandagain · 04/06/2024 12:50

I'm undecided but looking at local candidates for the best for this area.

Thisagainandagain · 04/06/2024 12:53

SomersetBrie · 04/06/2024 12:49

I agree with you. Greens have no chance where I live but I regularly vote for them in local elections where they do fare better (they don't get in but it's closer).
I'll be voting to oust my Tory MP, who had a very narrow win last time.
I feel the Greens have let women down more than the other parties as they seem kind of gloating rather than just inept on that issue.

I agree. Some parties seem inept and struggle with what a woman is but are catching on. The Greens dug in deeper and I feel like the SNP did have lost the plot on what is a woman.

I want investment on greener energy, free solar panels for suitable places schools, hospitals, homes, and for businesses to be encouraged into greener fuel usage.

Thisagainandagain · 04/06/2024 12:58

A link to The Green Party

https://greenparty.org.uk/

So much good there spoilt by handmaidening to men, reducing safety of girls and women for men.

Real hope. Real change.

The Green Party

https://greenparty.org.uk

CocoapuffPuff · 04/06/2024 13:01

If the Greens actually did their job and focused on environmental issues, I'd be right there.
I think they need a new identity. The Peens.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 04/06/2024 13:10

I agree. I voted Green regularly as a floating voter in both local and national elections. But I will never vote for them again after their ' non men nonsense. They seem to have decided to welcome with open arms some very dodgy people too in relation to Anti semitism, and people who will eventually bring them down as a result. I think they are very naive in this respect. I am, however, centre Left. I think they have become more a natural home for further Left people now Labour have become more centrist, but they have become less of a home for me as a result.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 04/06/2024 13:26

SomersetBrie · 04/06/2024 12:49

I agree with you. Greens have no chance where I live but I regularly vote for them in local elections where they do fare better (they don't get in but it's closer).
I'll be voting to oust my Tory MP, who had a very narrow win last time.
I feel the Greens have let women down more than the other parties as they seem kind of gloating rather than just inept on that issue.

I agree with this. I'm voting Labour despite their non committal stance on this, because there is a chance they may not go all out TRA, but the Greens have doubled down, expelled people with gender critical views and just Brook Jno argument. It was telling that the Scottish Greens deal breaker was the gender stuff, not the environmental stuff.

Thisagainandagain · 04/06/2024 14:48

DramaLlamaBangBang · 04/06/2024 13:26

I agree with this. I'm voting Labour despite their non committal stance on this, because there is a chance they may not go all out TRA, but the Greens have doubled down, expelled people with gender critical views and just Brook Jno argument. It was telling that the Scottish Greens deal breaker was the gender stuff, not the environmental stuff.

It's a shame than the TRA have pushed so much that women turn away in droves. I follow JKR and her following is huge. Constantly gets threatening messages from the very radical TRA. Sad times for safeguarding

stuckdownahole · 04/06/2024 18:19

DramaLlamaBangBang · 04/06/2024 13:10

I agree. I voted Green regularly as a floating voter in both local and national elections. But I will never vote for them again after their ' non men nonsense. They seem to have decided to welcome with open arms some very dodgy people too in relation to Anti semitism, and people who will eventually bring them down as a result. I think they are very naive in this respect. I am, however, centre Left. I think they have become more a natural home for further Left people now Labour have become more centrist, but they have become less of a home for me as a result.

There was a video circulating after the local elections of a successful Green candidate in Leeds whose victory speech was a rant about Palestine ending with chants of "Allahu Akbar!". He and those around him were dressed in traditional Islamic clothing. It seems that the Greens are easy to infiltrate - first the TRAs, now the Islamists.

We've seen this before with fringe Left parties but the frustrating thing is that the Greens have a genuine cause and point of view which registers with the public. They shouldn't need to behave like a fringe party.

On a related note, their policy of having two leaders also makes them look small-time and silly.

MinnieCauldwell · 04/06/2024 18:22

I am still a member, hanging on by a thread. We need a Planet Party. The green party are a massive disappointment. This should have been their moment over the last few years, what have they given us? Aimee Challenor and Sophie Sparkles, WTAF. How can anyone take them seriously.

ActivePeony · 04/06/2024 18:22

CocoapuffPuff · 04/06/2024 13:01

If the Greens actually did their job and focused on environmental issues, I'd be right there.
I think they need a new identity. The Peens.

Yes indeed.😂

DramaLlamaBangBang · 04/06/2024 18:35

stuckdownahole · 04/06/2024 18:19

There was a video circulating after the local elections of a successful Green candidate in Leeds whose victory speech was a rant about Palestine ending with chants of "Allahu Akbar!". He and those around him were dressed in traditional Islamic clothing. It seems that the Greens are easy to infiltrate - first the TRAs, now the Islamists.

We've seen this before with fringe Left parties but the frustrating thing is that the Greens have a genuine cause and point of view which registers with the public. They shouldn't need to behave like a fringe party.

On a related note, their policy of having two leaders also makes them look small-time and silly.

I agree re the 2 leaders, and I suspect that's part of the problem. They are so desperate to show how ' different' and 'inclusive' they are that they tolerate some staggering intolerance, in favour of those who shout the loudest, because they dont have a strong leadership. What does that guy know about green issues? What the going to do about environmental policies in the local Council seeing as theyve been elected a green local councillor. What do they think of the lgbt community? Who cares. They are pro Palestinian. Who cares seems to be their motto, as long as they aren't gender critical. Then you are purged.

Thisagainandagain · 04/06/2024 20:08

MinnieCauldwell · 04/06/2024 18:22

I am still a member, hanging on by a thread. We need a Planet Party. The green party are a massive disappointment. This should have been their moment over the last few years, what have they given us? Aimee Challenor and Sophie Sparkles, WTAF. How can anyone take them seriously.

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A party for the planet sounds a great idea.🌳

Thisagainandagain · 05/06/2024 23:27

I didn't realise how little some Green voters actually know what the party has become. Long gone are the days of thinking about the planet 😪

Perhaps the GP keep the infighting and the way they have treated members quiet to hold onto voters. They make some if the infighting of other parties look fairly timid

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66585309

Dr Shahrar Ali

Green Party taken to court over gender-critical row

Former spokesman Dr Shahrar Ali claims he was forced out of his party role over his views, which the Green Party denies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66585309

Thisagainandagain · 06/06/2024 07:11

stuckdownahole · 04/06/2024 18:19

There was a video circulating after the local elections of a successful Green candidate in Leeds whose victory speech was a rant about Palestine ending with chants of "Allahu Akbar!". He and those around him were dressed in traditional Islamic clothing. It seems that the Greens are easy to infiltrate - first the TRAs, now the Islamists.

We've seen this before with fringe Left parties but the frustrating thing is that the Greens have a genuine cause and point of view which registers with the public. They shouldn't need to behave like a fringe party.

On a related note, their policy of having two leaders also makes them look small-time and silly.

Yes I saw this and he accuses anyone of concern with islamophobia. The party appears to have weak leadership currently unless it comes to chucking out anyone who speaking up about protecting the 'vulnerable' men in frocks.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 06/06/2024 07:13

A bit like The Guardian. Outwardly ' be kind' 'we abhor all inequality' and by action judgmental, intolerant and bullying to people with different views to themselves, and overly tolerant to those who agree with them.

Thisagainandagain · 06/06/2024 07:46

DramaLlamaBangBang · 06/06/2024 07:13

A bit like The Guardian. Outwardly ' be kind' 'we abhor all inequality' and by action judgmental, intolerant and bullying to people with different views to themselves, and overly tolerant to those who agree with them.

It feels like that. The bullying whilst pretending to be oh so tolerant and inclusive. Double standards. I do feel though that there are many GP supporters who are totally unaware of the bullying of those who speak up (and believe in the original ideas).

CocoapuffPuff · 06/06/2024 08:19

Are they unaware, or do they just refuse to see it and acknowledge it?
I don't know how anyone can be completely blind to the Gender ideology running through the green party like it is.

I truly don't believe that they're unaware.

Like a poster on the other thread says quite openly, people speaking of it "triggers" them, so they stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it isn't happening instead. That's why we are here, on a separate thread. It "triggered" her and clearly made her feel things she didn't want to feel.

That's how one votes green nowadays. Pretend in fairies.

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