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Do you really care what your ancestors did? Watching Patsy Kensit just now and...

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PeaMcLean · 13/08/2008 21:56

wondering why she's getting soooo emotional about what someone did 200 years ago.

Now, I am only half watching, and I am interested in what my ancestors did, but I don't think it would move me to tears.

She seems to really think that what her ancestors does somehow reflects on her.

Am I odd in thinking that who your great great great great great grandad was does not impact on who you are today.

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WilfSell · 13/08/2008 23:13

The contrast of a normally private man blubbing I mean. In this case I felt like I was intruding watching; in Poutsy's case I wanted to shake her and shout 'stop worrying about reputation you silly cow'.

edam · 13/08/2008 23:13

I know, Mamazon, was a very feeble attempt at humour. Mind you, if you ever do need any assistance, dh is quite handy with a broadsword, I could loan him out.

DillyTanty · 13/08/2008 23:14

oh god it was awful, pointy. his mum had a baby, her interfering mil pulled the old 'you're making a rod for your own back' line when the baby was crying one night and wouldn't let her go to the child. cot death.

the mother lost her mind, was in and out of institutions, oddie knew something was up, never knew what happened. god, it was absolutely tragic.

WilyWombat · 13/08/2008 23:14

Ahh I thought I remembered something from my Smash Hits reading days (way prior to the Kray film) but of course publicists are not exactly liberal with the truth when they have a band to promote are they so it could all have been fabrication to make them more "interesting"

saltire · 13/08/2008 23:14

Well I wish I was a celebrity , we found out a few months ago that my Great grandfather had 5 siblings and 6 step siblings, and my great grandmother (his wife) had 7 siblings. My mother had no idea about any of this, but now we have hit a brick wall, we can't seem to find out what ahppened to them after 1901 - after all tehy could ahve relatives alive somewhere in london. I'm not rich and famous so don't have access to all the resources that celebs do on that programme.
I always enjoy the programme, although I did think a few times "FGS get a grip woman" when she started "crying"

themildmanneredjanitor · 13/08/2008 23:14

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Mamazon · 13/08/2008 23:15

Its all a bit of nothingness really but when i was younger many a lad was impressed by my relatives.
I was never bullied at school oddly enough

DillyTanty · 13/08/2008 23:15

me and dh were thinking 'i though Jim Kerr was supposed to be a smart guy?' imagine going from Chrissie Hynde to that? (or was it the other way around?)

HappypillsGalore · 13/08/2008 23:15

ouch!

ranting · 13/08/2008 23:16

No I must look that doc up DT, she didn't come out alive anyhow, so Dad ended up living with his rellies in Austria. Trying to find out where she ended up has been like trying to wade through treacle tbh.

edam · 13/08/2008 23:16

yeah, from my Smash Hit reading days, I have an impression that la Kensit traded up in terms of boyfriends - Big Audio Dynamite to Simple Minds to Oasis.

WilyWombat · 13/08/2008 23:18

Even smart guys think with their todgers on occasion maybe he wanted someone who appeared to be softer and more malleable.

Jodee · 13/08/2008 23:18

Yep, never forgiven her for marrying the lovely Jim Kerr ...

VeniVidiVickiQV · 13/08/2008 23:19

It's strange actually, my nan never gave much away about her past. At all. And understandably to some extent. However, in her last year of life, when she was starting to lose her mind to old age dementia and cancer, she'd remember some of the most wonderful, beautiful things that she'd not mentioned before - not even to her children (my mum and aunt).

Little things like her dad being a bus conductor, and letting her and her brothers and sisters ride on the bus at the end of the day and giving them a shiny shilling if they'd been good.

ranting · 13/08/2008 23:19

WW, are you calling Liam Gallagher smart

WilyWombat · 13/08/2008 23:20

Edam...she always appeared to trade upwards, pretty much like Sienna Miller...still you cant believe everything you read can you

DillyTanty · 13/08/2008 23:20

how many journalists working nowadays were teenage smash hits addicts, do you think edam? i still have my copies, about five years' worth.

good luck with your search, ranting, it sounds tough but possibly massively rewarding.

WilyWombat · 13/08/2008 23:21

Hell id have to be really pissed to call LG smart...we were referring to Jim Kerr

DillyTanty · 13/08/2008 23:21

Jim Kerr's todger is a pop legend, i hear. although that never made it to Smash Hits.

pointydog · 13/08/2008 23:21

oh dear dear, poor Oddie.

BigBadMousey · 13/08/2008 23:22

Bill Oddie didn't even know he had had a sister - she died before he was born and everything about his sister and his mother's illness was kept from him by his father and his paternal grandmother who brought him up.

It wasn't until that program that he realised what had really been going on in his own childhood. His mother had been in the asylum for nearly all his life and he only vague memories of her being at home (she was let on on the odd occassion that made to go back).

It was genuinely very sad - the best episode I have seen.

pointydog · 13/08/2008 23:23

har - when Patsy was in teh taxi going on about her great gf and gf and f and son all being called James I was waiting for her to say 'and my second husband'. But she didn't. After all, that was a coincidence, wasn't it

WilyWombat · 13/08/2008 23:24

In the way that Ewan McGregor & Liam Neeson are legends? Ahh no Smash Hits kept that from me...how could they

Still they also led me to believe George Michael was hetro

ranting · 13/08/2008 23:25

Rofl at Jim Kerrs todger being a legend.

DillyTanty · 13/08/2008 23:27

he was, WW, for a while...

yes, absolutely in that way. my dh and his mates saw it in the boy's loos of a club once and reported that it's like a toddler's arm. apparently it was all the other blokes at the urinal could do not to pat JK on the back in a congratulatory manner.