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Dilemma

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ThreeThousand · 21/02/2025 20:07

A distant relative, who I have never met, sent me his family history research- a large document covering our common ancestors, some families back to the early1500s.

However, after hours and hours of my own research, I think he has "gone wrong", in the vast majority of lines, just 4 generations back.

I can't always trace the correct ancestors myself but I have uncovered information which shows the ancestors he has named are just not correct.

My dilemma is, do I tell him? I think it might really piss him off or upset him if someone (me!) demolishes his research.

I've already thanked him for the document- saying how impressed I was that he'd traced lines back so far, and also saying how it would keep me occupied for years to try and follow his research.

Should I just leave it there? and not tell him that the research is absolutely riddled with holes. Is ignorance bliss??? Would you want to know?

I'm not a hugely experienced researcher but I've really got into it over the past 2 years and as an academic librarian I'm very careful in my work and confident at searching resources etc.

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Introducingme · 21/02/2025 20:15

I found the family research from my cousin when sorting out my late mum's house.
Like yours there were a number of errors for my family.
He had my children, nephews and nieces born in a different county.
My dad died in the wrong place and date.
There were a number of errors.
Only at the end of the email I sent did I point these out.
He has never replied, normally we email once a month.
My older brother is going to research the tree and hopefully he gets it right.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 21/02/2025 20:19

If it were me, I'd want to know. I mean, I'd be frustrated and upset that my research was wrong (particularly on a branch going back to 1500s) but I'd still rather be accurate.

GemC21 · 21/02/2025 20:24

I know you have never met but do you communicate regularly? What sort of relationship do you have? The reason I ask is because some are very sensitive about their research and are not open to correction, whether evidence is provided or not. If you don't have much to do with them then it seems pointless to mention it and risk ruffling feathers in my opinion.

I have been researching my own family history for around 15 years and I'm happy for anyone to point out an error and give me the chance to look again and correct if necessary but many are not.

whatwouldyoudoifisangoutofkey · 21/02/2025 20:31

I think I'd say nothing.
Although if he's uploaded it somewhere it could mislead others.
Although I suppose if he's uploaded and made it public perhaps you could respond annonomously
with a few corrections.

ThreeThousand · 21/02/2025 20:40

GemC21 · 21/02/2025 20:24

I know you have never met but do you communicate regularly? What sort of relationship do you have? The reason I ask is because some are very sensitive about their research and are not open to correction, whether evidence is provided or not. If you don't have much to do with them then it seems pointless to mention it and risk ruffling feathers in my opinion.

I have been researching my own family history for around 15 years and I'm happy for anyone to point out an error and give me the chance to look again and correct if necessary but many are not.

I think he's something like my first cousin once removed- but he lives on a different continent. I got in touch with him by messaging him on Ancestry ...and we have just emailed occasionally over the last year, always and only about family tree business.
He has a public tree which has a few shady bits and bobs on it but the info from this document- 30 pages of small print A4 going back 14 generations- is not publicly available.
I did try and ask him his source for one particular ancestor but he just sent me a link to a marriage record that doesn't connect / prove anything, and I didn't like to pursue it any further.

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GemC21 · 21/02/2025 20:55

ThreeThousand · 21/02/2025 20:40

I think he's something like my first cousin once removed- but he lives on a different continent. I got in touch with him by messaging him on Ancestry ...and we have just emailed occasionally over the last year, always and only about family tree business.
He has a public tree which has a few shady bits and bobs on it but the info from this document- 30 pages of small print A4 going back 14 generations- is not publicly available.
I did try and ask him his source for one particular ancestor but he just sent me a link to a marriage record that doesn't connect / prove anything, and I didn't like to pursue it any further.

Yeah then I'd just leave him to it and just make sure my own research and sources were correct. He doesn't sound like he'd be very open to discussion.

I would rather delete people/information from my tree if i'm not 100% but many people just prefer quantity over quantity unfortunately.

theboffinsarecoming · 22/02/2025 10:29

I agree with others - leave him be, but make sure that your own research annotates the copy he has sent you with the differences you have found, and why you believe that some areas are barking up the wrong tree (literally).

Another2Cats · 22/02/2025 22:54

"Should I just leave it there? and not tell him that the research is absolutely riddled with holes. Is ignorance bliss??? Would you want to know?"

As others have said, in this particular case, I think that it would likely be better to just leave it be.

"I did try and ask him his source for one particular ancestor but he just sent me a link to a marriage record that doesn't connect / prove anything"

But, if you did want to question him further then this may be a good starting point. Appear innocent and naive and seeking guidance.

"Thank you first cousin once removed (so either they are the child of one of your first cousins or one or your parents is their cousin), that was very interesting. But I'm very new at this and I can't quite see** how that fits in with the tree. Would you mind explaining it to me a bit more?"

That will hopefully persuade them to explain why they believe that and you can then gently dig away at that strand and show them the error in their ways.

Either that or you can just ignore them and get on with your own research.
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Having said all that though,

"a link to a marriage record that doesn't connect / prove anything"

Did you have a read of the actual record or just the transcript. Ancestry transcripts can be wrong. Sometimes the transcript has totally the wrong name so you always do need to check the actual record.

But, if the transcript is correct then I would suggest either question them gently on that or just politely ignore them from now.
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"I'm very careful in my work and confident at searching resources etc."

I really do wish that I'd been more like you when I first started out. I like to think that I have got a lot more careful in my research now but some of the things that I just accepted when I first started out just make me cringe now.

"Oh, everyone else says that this person is the father so it must be correct" I have since learnt is definitely not the best way of proceeding.
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"Is ignorance bliss??? Would you want to know?"

It depends; ignorance may be the best way in the case of your cousin.

As to myself? I have learnt that I am very fallible indeed, so if somebody approaches me and points out an error then I am very glad to alter my tree to reflect that.

Although, frankly, it's mostly me going back over what I did originally and finding some pretty basic errors. But, I will say, that one error I found did have a pretty big impact on my tree (it was a 4xG grandparent born in the 1810s, so 6 generations back).

"I can't always trace the correct ancestors myself but I have uncovered information which shows the ancestors he has named are just not correct."

This is what I found. The people who I thought were his parents I now know were not his parents but I cannot find out who his actual parents were.

But, I have multiple DNA matches through that line. So he is definitely related somehow to the people who I thought were his parents, it's just that they weren't his parents (perhaps they were aunts/uncles or cousins once removed etc).

So, I'm not going to delete that link at the moment (even though I know it's wrong) but I'm going to carry on looking for what the actual link is between that person and the multiple DNA matches that I have through that line.

Have you done a DNA test with Ancestry? If not, then I would encourage you to do so.

Even more, I would strongly urge you to ask your parents (if they are still alive) to do DNA tests. The reason I say this is that they are a generation older than you and so have more DNA from older ancestors than you do and so you can link back further.

Both my parents have done DNA tests on Ancestry and they have so many more DNA matches than I do (and I'm certain that they are my parents).

Combining DNA information with traditional genealogical records really can help to solve a lot of problems.

This may provide an answer as to the accuracy or otherwise of this document.
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**I can't quite see - Sorry, this is a very obscure reference:

Guide to Maths Masters

'Sir i don't quite see this.'
nb it is essential to sa you don't quite 'see' sum as this means you are only temporarily bafled by unruly equation and not that you don't kno the fanetest about any of it.

Willans, G. and Searle, R. (1953) Down with Skool! London: Max Parrish & Co

ThreeThousand · 24/02/2025 08:31

Thanks all. I'm glad you can appreciate the dilemma. I think the general consensus on the way forward is to NOT push the matter with him. At least for now.
Thanks all for advice- pithy and detailed.

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ThreeThousand · 24/02/2025 08:35

@Another2Cats lots here for me to think about. I have had my DNA done- not with Ancestry though, with 23 and Me.

My parents unfortunately are both dead. I'm thinking of getting my brother to do the Big Y dna because he is our only remaining male( 2 daughters...) in the surname line.

You suggest a good approach if i ever want to question my cousin but I think I will leave it now, unless he ever directly asks me what I think, or if I agree- then I can proceed gently.

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