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A mystery

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username3678 · 13/10/2024 03:55

I found a grave and wondered if anyone could give me a clue as to how to find out more about it
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/236752563/somebodies-darling

There's no name, it's just called Somebodies Darling, date of death is 28 August 1878, Maldon Essex

This obviously peaked my interest. I'm assuming that a body was found and a rich person took it upon themselves to bury them or the council did.

Somebodies Darling (unknown-1878) - Find a Grave...

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/236752563/somebodies-darling

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Lovemybunnies · 14/10/2024 19:44

Watching with interest!

graveyardkate · 14/10/2024 21:18

Lovemybunnies · 14/10/2024 19:44

Watching with interest!

Me too. Great graveyard find. Hope you get the info we're all waiting for!

Halsall · 16/10/2024 22:26

Following so I don’t miss the outcome of this, @username3678 - a fascinating story.

username3678 · 13/11/2024 11:31

Mystery solved.

Her name was Edith Maria Allen and she was 13 months.

Child of Louisa Allen 'single mother'

It's believed that because there are several children in unmarked graves on the row that the mother may have come into some money and bought a headstone but been unable to put the name on because she was illegitimate.

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Another2Cats · 13/11/2024 17:57

"Her name was Edith Maria Allen and she was 13 months.
Child of Louisa Allen 'single mother'"

Thank you, that's really interesting.

I just had a look on Ancestry and FindMyPast and things look a little curious.

I got a copy of her death certificate (see below) and it says that her name was Edith Maud Allen.

Since she was 13 months old then that would mean that she was born sometime around July 1877.

There are a couple of Ediths born around that time but only one to a single mother. That was in Oxfordshire and she wasn't called Louisa (her name was Harriet).

So then I thought, maybe I could find Louisa?

There were four Louisa Allens but only two had a connection to Maldon.

Louisa Allen born in Purleigh in 1856 to Samuel & Hannah, about four miles from Maldon. Her father was a farm worker. She would have been 21 when Edith was born and 22 when she died.

She is shown in the later 1881 Census as being a domestic servant for two elderly unmarried women in a house on High Street, Maldon.

By the time of the 1891 Census she was working as a cook in the household of Walter and Annie Pankhurst at 53 Cranfield Gardens, Hampstead, London. Walter was a stockbroker.

There is no sign of her after that so it is likely that she married.
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The other Louisa Allen had a rather different story. She was born in 1860 to George & Elizabeth in Maldon, her father was a hawker (travelling salesman). Her mum died before she was ten. This Louisa would have been 17 when Edith was born and 18 when she died.

It appears that this Louisa was then arrested in 1879 (it gives her place of birth as Maldon) and spent two months in Newgate Prison having been convicted of assault. Her occupation was given as prostitute.

There is no sign of her in the 1881 Census so she may have married by then.

So, two very different candidates for who this Louisa Allen, the mother of Edith may have been.

A mystery
username3678 · 13/11/2024 20:57

@Another2Cats

Thank you so much, that's fascinating.

I joined Ancestry and found the prison registration and her (the second person) aged 10. I also found Edith's death details, but no birth certificate - have no idea why there's no birth certificate.

I'm interested in finding out more detail for example the one born in Purleigh, I'd like to know the address where she worked in Maldon. Is that on Find My Past? As I couldn't find it on Ancestry.

What should I be looking for? I'm a complete novice at this. Many thanks.

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Lovemybunnies · 14/11/2024 06:59

That’s intriguing and sad at the same time. Thanks for updating. I think I could get into this too!

Another2Cats · 14/11/2024 09:36

username3678 · 13/11/2024 20:57

@Another2Cats

Thank you so much, that's fascinating.

I joined Ancestry and found the prison registration and her (the second person) aged 10. I also found Edith's death details, but no birth certificate - have no idea why there's no birth certificate.

I'm interested in finding out more detail for example the one born in Purleigh, I'd like to know the address where she worked in Maldon. Is that on Find My Past? As I couldn't find it on Ancestry.

What should I be looking for? I'm a complete novice at this. Many thanks.

"...have no idea why there's no birth certificate."

Up until 1875 it wasn't compulsory to register a birth. It was only from 1875 that a person could be fined £2 if a birth wasn't registered. Given that this birth was just two years after this I wonder if, given the situation, perhaps the mother didn't want to register the birth and wasn't aware of the new law?

She may have got the child baptised, or she may not, and if she did get Edith baptised then she may not have given her real name at the time.
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"I'd like to know the address where she worked in Maldon. Is that on Find My Past? As I couldn't find it on Ancestry."

It's all on Ancestry, but this is where things get tricky.

It's a bit like one of those puzzles that goes "Mrs Brown lives next door to the butcher and Mrs Blue lives opposite the baker"

When enumerators were recording the census they would start at one end of the street, go along it and then do the other side of the street.

Very often they would record house numbers, but not always. Anyway, sometimes, especially on main shopping streets, house numbers aren't always displayed (that's still true today).

In that situation, the only thing you have is the "Schedule Number" which is the number on the left hand side of the page. This isn't a house number but simply the order that the enumerator recorded them in, simply starting at one and going up from there.

The 1881 Census shows Louisa living at an address on the High Street working as a domestic servant. She is at the top of the page here:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7572/images/ESSRG11_1772_1775-0790

If you look further down on that page you will see the Middleditch family, Edward & Hannah who are bakers, living at Schedule 34 (this is where that puzzle comes in). Next door to them are the Handley family, William & Jane. William is a mariner.

On the bottom of the previous page it shows living in the same household as Louisa, Sarah and Elizabeth Richardson who are unmarried sisters aged 76 and 74. They are at Schedule No 28

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7572/images/ESSRG11_1772_1775-0789

If you look on the same page you will notice that the Samms family, who are grocers, are living at Schedule No 24 and William Gower, a clerk, lives at Schedule No 23 and that there is a butchers at No 22.
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OK, so if we now fast forward to the 1891 Census and this time round the enumerator did record the house numbers. So we need to see if any of those people mentioned above are still living on the High Street.

As it happens, Sarah Richardson is still living on the High Street and is recorded as then living at 15 High Street with a housekeeper and two servants:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/6598/images/ESSRG12_1396_1399-0362

15 High Street today is occupied by Holden estate agents.

But, she may have moved house since 1881. How do we know she's still living in the same house? That's where the neighbours come in.

Edward Middleditch, the baker, is still living five doors away at number 25 although his wife Hannah has since died.

Next door to him, at number 27, there is still a Handley living there although William & Jane have since moved up the street to number 31.

Going in the opposite direction, the Samms family are still living in the same home as Grocers at number 9 and William Gower is still next door at number 7. There is also still a butchers next door at number 5 although it is run by different people now.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/6598/images/ESSRG12_1396_1399-0363

Fortunately, Sarah Richardson was still living on the High Street so we can easily identify which house it was. But, even if she wasn't living there any more we can work out from the neighbours living either side in both 1881 and 1891 where Louisa must have lived in 1881. That's where the puzzle I originally mentioned comes in.

I hope that makes sense?

It's also interesting to see how things have changed over the years. In 1891 there was a draper's shop at 19 High St and today it is still a clothes shop.

The Samm's grocery shop is now a cafe and jewellery workshop.

The butcher's shop at No 5 is still a butcher's shop (Ansell & Sons). So there's been a butcher's shop on that site for at least 140 years.

The Moot Hall (a building with four pillars and a clock) back in 1891 was the police station and there was one prisoner in the cells on that evening.

On the other side of the street, in 1891, the widowed Mrs Hicks ran a large grocery store at No 40-42. Today, it is an M&S Foodhall

The building next door to the old Kings Head hotel that looks very much like an old bank branch was indeed a bank back in 1891 (or, at least, a bank manager lived there).
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"...and her (the second person) aged 10."

If you're having trouble tracing a particular person then one thing you can do is to look for others who lived with them.

For example, in the 1871 Census Louisa is shown as living with her sister Margaret and brother George. If you then search for them in the 1861 census you can find, ten years younger still living on the same road and Louisa is there shown as 8 months old.

However, the handwriting on the form is not very good and her name has been transcribed incorrectly as "Louize" instead of Louisa.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/records?recordId=16796544&collectionId=8767

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7572/images/ESSRG11_1772_1775-0790

username3678 · 15/11/2024 20:32

@Another2Cats

You have gone above and beyond, thank you so much. I feel a bit overwhelmed with all the information and have no idea how you've done it.

I've read your post a few times and it seems complicated.

Thank you so much, your help is appreciated.

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Another2Cats · 15/11/2024 21:10

username3678 · 15/11/2024 20:32

@Another2Cats

You have gone above and beyond, thank you so much. I feel a bit overwhelmed with all the information and have no idea how you've done it.

I've read your post a few times and it seems complicated.

Thank you so much, your help is appreciated.

If there's anything in particular you don't understand please let me know and I'll try to break it down a bit more.

username3678 · 15/11/2024 21:36

Another2Cats · 15/11/2024 21:10

If there's anything in particular you don't understand please let me know and I'll try to break it down a bit more.

Thank you.🙏

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Another2Cats · 16/11/2024 11:10

Looking back on what I wrote yesterday, I realise that I probably overcomplicated things with how I put it. Maybe this will be easier.

There were no house numbers in 1881 but we do know what order people lived in. So, we need to find people who were living there in both 1881 and 1891 when they recorded the house numbers.

So, these are the people who were living on the High Street in both 1881 and 1891

From the 1881 census, with Schedule Number

21 - Robert Tew & family, bakers

22 - a butcher's shop (run by William Wright)

23 - William Gower

24 - John Samms & family, grocers

25 - Other people we're not interested in (they weren't there in 1891)

26 - Other people

27 - Other people

28 - Louisa Allen & the Richardson sisters

29 - Other people

30 - Other people

31 - Other people

32 - Other people

33 - Other people

34 - Edward Middleditch & family, bakers

35 - Other people

36 - William Handley, mariner

37 - William Blowers & family, saddlers

38 - Other people

39 - Richard Poole & family, printer, stationer & bookseller

40 - George Wade & family, butchers

Not all of these numbers represent individual houses. Sometimes, different families lived separately in the same house. For example in 1881 at 37 there is William Blowers and family with, separately, a widow living at 38. They were living in the same house but as separate households.

In 1891 the Blowers are still living there but there is also a different person living with them described as an "under tenant".

At schedule number 26, the widowed Mrs Wood is shown as a "Boarder" rather than "Head". It looks like they were living as boarders with the family shown at 25.

So, those are the Schedule numbers but we don't know what the actual house numbers are. If you then look at the 1891 census with house numbers:

3 - Robert Tew & family, bakers

5 - a butcher's shop (now run by George Handley)

7 - William Gower

9 - Samms family, grocers

11 - Other people we're not interested in (they weren't there in 1881)

13 - Other people

15 - Sarah Richardson (who Louisa used to work for)

17 - Unoccupied

19 - Other people

21 - Other people

23 - Unoccupied

25 - Middleditch family, bakers

27 - Charles Handley

29 - Other people

31 - William Handley

33 - Unoccupied

35 - Blowers family, saddlers

37 - Poole family, printers, booksellers

Police station - one prisoner

39 - Wade family, butchers
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So, in 1881, from schedule numbers 21 to 24 we've got four families (well, three and a butchers shop) and in 1891 those three families and a butcher's shop are all still living next door to each other in the same order at house numbers 3 to 9.

So we can be pretty sure that those people are still living in the same houses they were in 1881.

In 1881, there are then three schedule numbers, 25 to 27, before we get to Louisa at 28, the fourth schedule number. But we know that the widow recorded at 26 was living as a boarder with the family recorded at 25. So, although it is three schedule numbers it is actually only two separate houses and Louisa was living in the third house along.

Three houses up from number 9 is number 15. When we look at 15, Sarah Richardson is still living there. It was fortunate that she was still living there but even if she wasn't living there we could still say that it was number 15 where Louisa was living in 1881 as we know that her neighbours haven't moved and they were living at numbers 3 to 9.

You can also do the same exercise in the other direction from the Middleditch family and the other families living further away.
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Just as one final thing, I couldn't find some of these addresses on the current map of Maldon so I looked at an old map. Back then, numbers 25 to 33 were in front of the church where the current war memorial now stands. The houses still existed in 1911 but were demolished sometime between then and 1920.

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username3678 · 18/11/2024 01:30

@Another2Cats

Thank you so much. That's an awful lot of work and I really appreciate it. It's such a shame the houses were demolished because my sister was going to go and find the house. However I know exactly where they were.

One of the reasons I wanted to know was because the High Street is mainly shops with flats above, so I was wondering if the sisters were shop keepers.

However there's lots to go on here.

Amazing, thank you again.

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StandingSideBySide · 18/11/2024 02:25

Wish I’d found this thread sooner
Ive been trying to find the birth
Looking at bmd index I found these possible births for your Edith
the month given relates to a 3 month period before
so March would be for January February and March.

So for a Potential birth month of July 1877 we should look for Sept 1877 approx
I searched for all births of Edith Allen born anywhere in the country.

You can see the 10 results for the most likely period and as @Another2Cats mentioned Edith Maud she is there born in Alverstoke….not that near Maldon (unless there’s more than one ). However it wouldn’t be unusual for an illegitimate child to be born elsewhere,
Info on the detailed screen shot notes where more details re mother etc can be found ie volume and page. A certificate can then be ordered to check the info from the GRO

hope this helps OP
ps screen shots are a bit blurry, don’t know why, touch the shot to view

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StandingSideBySide · 18/11/2024 02:28

Ps the only Edith Maria is born in April, May or June 1877 in Reading
Still a possibility

StandingSideBySide · 18/11/2024 02:37

Pls there’s no record of a child called Edith Maria dying around August 1878 anywhere on bmd

Another2Cats · 18/11/2024 07:17

username3678 · 18/11/2024 01:30

@Another2Cats

Thank you so much. That's an awful lot of work and I really appreciate it. It's such a shame the houses were demolished because my sister was going to go and find the house. However I know exactly where they were.

One of the reasons I wanted to know was because the High Street is mainly shops with flats above, so I was wondering if the sisters were shop keepers.

However there's lots to go on here.

Amazing, thank you again.

Number 15, which was the house where Louisa worked is still there. It is now Holdens estate agents.

Another2Cats · 18/11/2024 10:22

username3678 · 18/11/2024 01:30

@Another2Cats

Thank you so much. That's an awful lot of work and I really appreciate it. It's such a shame the houses were demolished because my sister was going to go and find the house. However I know exactly where they were.

One of the reasons I wanted to know was because the High Street is mainly shops with flats above, so I was wondering if the sisters were shop keepers.

However there's lots to go on here.

Amazing, thank you again.

"Amazing, thank you again."

It's no problem. It's nice sometimes to have a distraction from my own family tree and have a look at something totally different.

"...so I was wondering if the sisters were shop keepers."

The house is now Holden estate agents, here is the current google streetview image attached.

In 1881 the Richardson sisters are 76 and 74 so likely retired. The way to find out their former occupation is to have a look for them in earlier censuses.

I've managed to find them all the way back to 1841. They certainly weren't shopkeepers, they would likely have considered that beneath them.

Their occupation is given differently in different censuses but it all amounts to the same thing. They were described variously as "fundholder", "annuitant", "independent".

It appears that they likely had inherited money in government bonds, called "gilts" today, and were living off the dividends.

They also went travelling quite a bit. At the time of the 1851 census they were visiting a James & Sarah Dyke in East End near Bradwell on Sea, about 15 miles from Maldon. James Dyke was a farmer of 400 acres who employed 15 men and 9 boys.

In 1871 they were living with Frederick & Catherine Good at 322 Fulham Road, Chelsea, London (very close to the present day home of Chelsea football club). Mr Good was a civil servant.

So, here are the censuses with the Richardson sisters:

1871 Chelsea (their ages are incorrectly transcribed as 15 & 14 but are clearly 65 & 64 on the original). At this time the people living in their home in Maldon are described as a servant and a charwoman. There is no "head". It seems that the Richardson sisters were away visiting and left their servants at home.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/records?recordId=12209074&collectionId=7619

1861 High St, Maldon "fundholder". I am certain this is still the same house that they are in at the time of later censuses. The reason for saying this is that five doors up from them is a butcher's shop run by a 37 year old William Wright.

William is still running that same butcher's shop in the 1881 census where he is shown as being 57.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/records?recordId=16790303&collectionId=8767

1851 East End, Bradwell on Sea "Annuitant". Sarah seems to have moved out of the house she was living at in 1841. In 1851, their future home on High St Maldon was occupied by a 77 year old widow, Mary Badley and her granddaughter Mary Ann Seale. I would guess that Mary Badley passed away and the Richardson sisters then later either purchased the home on the High St or rented it.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8860/records/6214570

1841 Sarah was living on London Road, Maldon. "Ind" - of independent means. She was living between a Henry Pepper, watchmaker and a Henry Barnet, brazier. Both of those people are still there in 1851 but there is no record of anyone living in between them. Perhaps Sarah's house on London Rd was just empty in 1851?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/records?recordId=1839787&collectionId=8978

and Elizabeth was living on Flambirds/Flambards Farm, run by Edward Chapman, in Cold Norton about 5 miles from Maldon. The transcript incorrectly gives her surname name as Richard but it is clear on the original that the name is Richardson.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/records?recordId=4161326&collectionId=8978

They were certainly relatively wealthy. When Elizabeth died in 1886 she left an estate worth £1,942 15s which is about £200k in today's money.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1904/records/3272428

When Sarah died in 1891 she left an estate worth £3,878 3s 4d which would be about £400k in today's money (I presume this includes the money left by her sister).
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/records?recordId=5488089&collectionId=1904

And don't forget, these were unmarried women who never did a day's work so either their parents or grandparents were wealthy.

It's been interesting tracing this. My own family are very different indeed, I come from a long line of farm workers on the male side and laundresses and domestic servants on the female side.

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PreFabBroadBean · 18/11/2024 10:53

Another2Cats Thank you for all that interesting information. I've noticed in my own tree that quite often Victorian women who were independently wealthy didn't marry. I'm not sure whether it was a shortage of suitable husbands, or a desire to remain independent.

StandingSideBySide has identified ten possible Edith Allens born in the country. I checked on the GRO website, which gives more information:
Edith Maud registered in Alverstoke - she's down as Editha Maud Allen, mothers maiden name Wilkins
Edith Maria registered in Reading - her mother's maiden name is Lay
This would seem to rule both out.

There are only six Allen babies registered in England in 1877 with a mother's maiden name given as Allen - note one is a baby Louisa. These are shown in the jpg.

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PreFabBroadBean · 18/11/2024 11:00

I've summarised what we know below, in case anyone finds out more about poor Edith. I wonder whether the Maria from the record office is a misreading for Maud?

Sombodies Darling gravestone at Maldon, Essex, died 28 Aug 1878
The cemetery covers the two adjacent parishes that used the cemetery after 1855; All Saints and St Mary the Virgin. From the transcripts (Ancestry and FindMyPast) 61 people buried in Maldon cemetery in 1878.

Edith's death
Edith Maud Allen (death certificate dated 31 Aug) or Edith Maria Allen (record office)
Died 28 Aug 1878, St Mary's Maldon. Aged 13 months. Daughter of Louisa Allen, single mother.
Therefore, Edith is born around Jul 1877.

Another2Cats has identified two Louisa Allens with a connection to Maldon.

  1. Louisa Allen born in nearby Purleigh in 1856 to Samuel (farm worker) and Hannah, making her 21 when Edith was born.
    1881 - domestic servant for two elderly unmarried women in High St, Maldon
    1891 - cook to Walter (stockbroker) and Annie Pankhurst in Hampstead, London

  2. Louisa Allen, born 1860 to George (hawker) and Elizabeth in Maldon, making her 17 when Edith was born. This Louisa's mother died when she was ten.
    1879 - Louisa (occupation prostitute) was arrested for assault and spent two months in Newgate Prison

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 18/11/2024 11:39

What a fascinating thread!

StandingSideBySide · 18/11/2024 13:02

PreFabBroadBean · 18/11/2024 10:53

Another2Cats Thank you for all that interesting information. I've noticed in my own tree that quite often Victorian women who were independently wealthy didn't marry. I'm not sure whether it was a shortage of suitable husbands, or a desire to remain independent.

StandingSideBySide has identified ten possible Edith Allens born in the country. I checked on the GRO website, which gives more information:
Edith Maud registered in Alverstoke - she's down as Editha Maud Allen, mothers maiden name Wilkins
Edith Maria registered in Reading - her mother's maiden name is Lay
This would seem to rule both out.

There are only six Allen babies registered in England in 1877 with a mother's maiden name given as Allen - note one is a baby Louisa. These are shown in the jpg.

You made it a step further than me.
Ive been using bmd for years as it’s free. I always assumed to get more info you needed to order the certificate from GRO
It never dawned on me to go to the GRO website to look for more available online 🤯🥴
now you’ve done it it seems so obvious!

Ive learnt something new today….even though I feel like a right nonce.

PreFabBroadBean · 18/11/2024 13:25

Don't worry, I think the GRO has only recently started giving more info, and I don't think it's had much publicity. By working together, we're more likely to find the answer - although as Another2Cats pointed out, Edith's birth might not have been registered 😀

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 18/11/2024 13:48

Interesting thread!
The GRO online indexes have given the mother's maiden name for quite a few years. In the last year or so you have been able to instantly download for £3 a digital image from the birth or death records, instead of having to wait days and pay more for a pdf or paper certificate, that's been really useful.

username3678 · 19/11/2024 20:32

Thank you everyone for this, especially @Another2Cats for all your hard work.🙏 I'm not sure if I can find out more than you as I'm a novice.

The only thing I can add is that St Marys on the Death Certificate means St Marys parish. I don't understand why it says on the death certificate, 'Mother present at death'.

I believe that the demolished houses in front of the church were cottages. I may have a picture of them.

It was fascinating to learn of the sisters and their jaunts. I know exactly where that Estate Agent is. I've got no idea why Bradwell is called the East End as it's Essex, I don't believe it's East Essex.

That Butcher's mentioned is still there, I think it's still run by the same family but am not sure.

I also know Cold Norton very well so that was very interesting to see.

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