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Birth registration date.

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lucy542 · 04/02/2024 09:48

Hi to cut a long story short. I will explain it best I can as it can get a little confusing.

Someone in my family (great Nan’s sister in law) told my mum my Nan’s (my mums mum) dad isn’t her real dad and that my great nan had an affair with an Asian man. This made us question things so I set up an ancestry account and I’ve just recently started doing my family tree on there. I’ve also done the dna test to find family members and ethnicity, waiting on results.
Both my Nan’s have passed.
We was told my Nan’s (mums mum) birthday was the end of February and she always celebrated her birthday the end of February but on ancestry it says her birth was registered in the January before. She was born in 1950. This is definitely her birth registration.
I could understand it if it said her birth was registered in March or April but I don’t understand why it says the January before.
I have tried to order my Nan’s birth certificate to see what it says on that.
Also, my mum remembers my great grandad (mums mums dad) telling her he went to register my Nan’s birth by himself. Wouldn’t have my nan had to be there aswell? They was married.
The only reason we can think of as to why it says that the birth is registered in January is either a mistake on ancestry but not sure how it could be a mistake or that she was born in January and my great nan and grandad kept my Nan’s birth a secret so dates of her pregnancy didn’t match up to the other man’s affair with my great nan, if that story is true.
Just to mention aswell that my great Nan’s family was really religious and stopped talking to her years and years ago, not sure when. In 1980 her mum died and none of her family would allow her to go to the funeral. When she died herself none of her family went to her funeral. When my nan (mums mum) got married, my nan’s (mums mums mum) Sister kept her curtains shut all day. She lived round the corner and none of my great Nan’s family went. They used to ignore us in the street if they seen us. It’s upsetting that my Nan’s got treated like that. Could they have stopped speaking to her because of the affair, if it’s true. Could my grandad of known about the affair, if it’s true.
So I’m wondering, as it says January was the birth registration month does that look like its correct? I’m just confused by everything at the moment, don’t know what to believe.
Thanks for reading x

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 04/02/2024 16:57

When you say 'on Ancestry it says', what are you actually looking at - an original official record such as a birth registration index, a transcription of an original record, or a tree someone else has created? Don't put any faith in options 2 or 3.

LIZS · 04/02/2024 17:08

Either parent can register a birth if married.

KateyCuckoo · 04/02/2024 17:14

What happened when you tried to order the birth certificate?

lucy542 · 04/02/2024 17:16

NoBinturongsHereMate · 04/02/2024 16:57

When you say 'on Ancestry it says', what are you actually looking at - an original official record such as a birth registration index, a transcription of an original record, or a tree someone else has created? Don't put any faith in options 2 or 3.

Yes it’s a birth registration index

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lucy542 · 04/02/2024 17:17

KateyCuckoo · 04/02/2024 17:14

What happened when you tried to order the birth certificate?

They are having a look to see if they can find it there, if they find it they will send it out to me

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LIZS · 04/02/2024 17:28

Have you looked for a baptism record if the family were religious.

DuckBee · 04/02/2024 17:37

Birth registrations are in quarters so it’s quite feasible for a feb birth to be registered in the January quarter. Wait until you actually receive the cert.

lucy542 · 04/02/2024 17:38

LIZS · 04/02/2024 17:28

Have you looked for a baptism record if the family were religious.

yes I can’t find any baptism record

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lucy542 · 04/02/2024 17:41

DuckBee · 04/02/2024 17:37

Birth registrations are in quarters so it’s quite feasible for a feb birth to be registered in the January quarter. Wait until you actually receive the cert.

I looked into what the quarters are, on ancestry it says…
Registration date Jan 1950
Registration quarter Jan-Feb-Mar

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IIdentifyAsInnocent · 04/02/2024 17:48

An ex of mine's Mum forgot his birthday!! They celebrated it on the wrong day until he was 16 and applied for a passport, thereby had to get out his birth certificate. I know a month out seems odd but it may be something like that. Or his mother needed to pass the baby off as younger so as to conceal an affair and so told everyone that it was in February

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 17:53

If her birthday is Feb then she woud be registered as Quarter March 1950.

You can double check on https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

If you want to PM me the name I can look for you. I am a qualified genealogist.

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 17:57

When you say "they " are trying to find it for you , who are they?

lucy542 · 04/02/2024 18:00

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 17:53

If her birthday is Feb then she woud be registered as Quarter March 1950.

You can double check on https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

If you want to PM me the name I can look for you. I am a qualified genealogist.

Edited

I thought this too after looking in to the quarters more.
I just don’t understand why it would say January as date of registration as obviously can’t register a birth until it’s happened

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lucy542 · 04/02/2024 18:02

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 17:57

When you say "they " are trying to find it for you , who are they?

It’s the council like a town hall place. I went on the councils website and it said I should order it from there, after completing the form with my Nan’s name etc it said they will try and find it, if they find it they’ll send me a link to pay and they’ll send it out

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Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:14

lucy542 · 04/02/2024 18:02

It’s the council like a town hall place. I went on the councils website and it said I should order it from there, after completing the form with my Nan’s name etc it said they will try and find it, if they find it they’ll send me a link to pay and they’ll send it out

You can search yourself and order on the GRO website.
General Register office.

LIZS · 04/02/2024 18:17

Yes I thought historical registration certificates were now issued centrally, Did she leave property or a will, if so details might be on the probate website . probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:21

lucy542 · 04/02/2024 18:00

I thought this too after looking in to the quarters more.
I just don’t understand why it would say January as date of registration as obviously can’t register a birth until it’s happened

The quarters are March, June, Sept and Dec. A specific birth could have been registered on Jan 1950 but it will appear in the March 1950 Quarter.

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:26

I could give you the reference number in less than a couple of minutes. I understand though if you want to be private.

lucy542 · 04/02/2024 18:26

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:14

You can search yourself and order on the GRO website.
General Register office.

I went on there before the council but 1950 wasn’t there to select. I will try on there again if I have no success with the council although I think I will as that’s where I had to get my mums birth certificate years ago for my passport

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Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:27

@LIZS you can order it from the registration on office where it was recorded.

lucy542 · 04/02/2024 18:29

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:21

The quarters are March, June, Sept and Dec. A specific birth could have been registered on Jan 1950 but it will appear in the March 1950 Quarter.

I’m not sure it’s appearing in the March quarter.
The thing that’s confusing me is it says the birth was registered in the January but my nan was told she was born in the February

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Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:29

@lucy542 in that case check on that other link I gave you for FreeBMD.

lucy542 · 04/02/2024 18:34

Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:29

@lucy542 in that case check on that other link I gave you for FreeBMD.

I checked that website last night, it says march quarter on there. Didn’t really understand the quarters up until now.
on ancestry though it still says birth registered in January. It also says on my Nan’s timeline on my family tree that she was born in January because it says the birth was registered in the January I think

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Mycatsarethebest · 04/02/2024 18:42

When you say the birth was registered you mean the informant on her birth registered it on some date in January? The official records will group it under Quarter March. The actual BC will tell you the exact date.

Good luck with your research. Lots of families have secrets.

Lavenderosa · 04/02/2024 18:48

I do genealogy for people and I think your best bet is to take Mycatsarethebest advice and get a copy from the GRO website. For a 1950 birth certificate it will cost you £14 and be posted to you. You can register at the GRO website for free. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

Go to 'Order a Certificate' and fill in the forms,
Tick 'I know the GRO Index Reference'
Copy the details from Ancestry :
Name etc...
Quarter...
District Name ...
Volume Number...
Page Number...