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I need help with buying a new laptop or possibly an iPad please

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HypatiaTheProcrastinator · 26/04/2012 21:13

I curreny own four broken laptops! I'm fed up of old rubbish ones and want to get a new one. But I have no idea what all the numbers and letters mean! Blush I pretty much only use a computer for the internet which makes me wonder if an iPad would do the job, but I don't know if I'll want to be able to create documents in the future, so I'm back to thinking of a laptop just in case.

Does anyone have any advice about what I should be looking for please? Better yet, any partivularly good deals? Thanks! :)

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flatpackhamster · 27/04/2012 08:21

OK, let's try to work out what you're going to be doing on it. So just internet? Email? How about printing? Do you have kids who need to do their homework? What sort of budget?

Houseygirl · 27/04/2012 09:03

Depends on your budget and what you do most.
I have an iPad and it is fantastic for searching the internet, finding recipes, have some good education apps SKYPE and I use it to read and send my emails. But for longer documents you will need a keyboard ( I don't because it suits my creaky hands but other find screen keyboard annoying). You can get a neat little carry case that will hold a keyboard and an iPad.
However the iPad is expensive and you can find lots of lovely very lightweight laptops for much less money just don't get anything with less than an i3 chip (i5 if the computer is used for video games by children)- you may find that Assus do a tablet with a detachable keyboard that is good but probably bit more in price.
On the whole I love my iPad it looks and feels nice - go to an apple store without kids and try one before you make a big investment. PC options too

HypatiaTheProcrastinator · 27/04/2012 10:04

flatpack, I very rarely need to print anything and I just do it at my sister's if I need to. At the moment, I just use a computer for the internet but I'm almost finished at university and have no idea if/when I'll find a job and if that will mean I'll want any eord processing facilities. I have one child of 19 months so no real need for a computer although I know children learn from computers/iPads very young these days. I don't have a budget really. I owed my Mum £1000 and she's told me to buy a laptop or iPad with it. I'll give her the difference but she doesn't desperately need the money by any means.
Housey, I use my sister's iPad2 quite a bit and I find it easy to use so I'd get along with one. I don't know if it would be worth paying extra for an iPad3 if I did go down that route. Can you write documents or even spreadsheets on an iPad? I currently use my Samsung Galaxy S 2 as my main internet connection so I'm used to screen keyboards. Thanks for the tip about chips, I don't what you're talking about but I'll look out for it. Wink

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flatpackhamster · 27/04/2012 10:26

If you're job hunting you'll want something to write your CV on and email it on. I know that lots of people think that iPads are "the shizzle" but I agree with Houseygirl that they're fine for gawping at the internet but to do any actual work you'll need something with a keyboard.

Houseygirl is talking about the processor. There are different processors which run the different machines. Intel make a range called the Pentium, which used to be called the Celeron. These are ghastly. They also make a range called the Core, and there's a Core i3, a core i5 and a Core i7. i7 is performance computing, it's for serious gamers and graphic designers and the like. i5 is a high-end home family computer. i3 is fine for day-to-day use but don't expect it to set the world on fire.
The competitor to Intel is AMD. They make an A series (A4, A6, A8) and an E series. Ignore the E series. The same applies to the A series as it does to the Intel Core.

In a survey done in 2010 the two most reliable laptop manufacturers were Toshiba and Asus. They had a typical failure rate over 3 years of 15%. The least reliable were HP with a 25% failure rate over 3 years.

If it was my money, I'd get a Windows laptop. It's WAY more versatile than the iPad but it doesn't have the 'wow' factor.

Something like this is an example:

www.ebuyer.com/337140-asus-x53z-laptop-x53z-sx052v

Remember - laptops don't last. Nor do tablets. 3 years, maybe 4, and it'll be too slow and out of date.

If you need Office (for word processing, spreadsheets, etc) you can buy an 'education' licence from software4students.co.uk. You can buy the full Office suite from their website for £70 (retail price £430). It's a bargain on a stick, IMO.

HypatiaTheProcrastinator · 27/04/2012 12:45

I suppose I wil need to write a CV at some point, yes! :o Thankyou for the processor and reliability tips.

I didn't realise it's normal for computers to not last very long. The one that most recently conked out is 5.5 years old.

Do I need to be looking for anything in particular with regards to RAM and how many GB they are?

I assume that Office is a student deal, so if I want it I should buy it before leaving university? Do laptops not come with Office installed on them, or is it a basic version you get?

I'm getting embarrassed at just how little I know about all things technology! Blush

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flatpackhamster · 27/04/2012 13:35

To run Windows 7, 4GB RAM is a must. Anything less than that will be OK for about the next 18 months but as Microsoft release the next service pack for Win7, the RAM requirements will increase and you'll be stuck.

Remember that RAM can be upgraded later and that it's cheap to do so. If you find identical machines, one with 8GB that's £100 more than one with 4GB, go for the 4GB, because in 2 years time that 8GB RAM upgrade will cost £25.

The Office is an education licence so you should buy it before leaving uni. Almost all laptops come preinstalled with Office 2010, but you can use it for 30 days before Microsoft demand money.

Don't be embarrased. Just as hardly anybody knows what goes on under the bonnet of the car, hardly anybody knows about computers. I do this for a living which is why I have (nearly) all the answers.

HypatiaTheProcrastinator · 27/04/2012 14:14

That's interesting about upgrading, I didn't know you could do that so I'll definitely keep that in mind thankyou. And I'll get the cheap Office asap.

I too know nothing about cars, but then I don't drive so have nothing to know about. I can fit a kitchen (minus gas and electricity) though! That's my desperate attempt to redeem myself. Wink

Thankyou so much for the help and explanations. :)

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Houseygirl · 29/04/2012 14:37

flatpackhamster has given top advice - only thing I would add is if you still have your software discs you could reinstall the software you don't need to buy things again - you own the licence. Later on you will be able to upgrade to Windows 8 (upgrades are less money than buying whole new package) That goes for all the software you own - another good tip you have mentioned is educational software there are some good sites for software4students is one. I am an OU student and bought software this way. Totally agree with flatpackhamster don't be embarrassed - hugely impressed you can fit a kitchen - respect!

JeffTracy · 30/04/2012 15:51

You don't really need to buy Microsoft Office. LibreOffice does the same thing and does not cost anything.

flatpackhamster · 30/04/2012 16:10

I agree that you don't need to buy Office. However, Libreoffice doesn't include an equivalent for either Publisher or Outlook. Further, Most businesses use MS Office, so having that on your home machine is good practice for work.

SerenityUndercover · 30/04/2012 16:15

I can recommend Sony Vaio's. On the 2nd one in 7 years now, they last and are very good workhorses. My DH has an IPad, I tried it out and at first thought it was wonderful, however, I came to loathe the small screen and on-screen keyboard after a relatively short time and it's no faster than the Vaio (I have a new edition with i3 core from John Lewis). Also I like to browse the laptop on my lap Smile whilst watching TV etc and even with the clip-on prop-up thingy you can get for the Ipad I just didn't like having to physically prop it up all the time, unlike a laptop which is an awful lot more stable and can even balance a cup of tea and a biscuit on it Smile.

HypatiaTheProcrastinator · 07/06/2012 20:18

Thankyou so much for all the advice. I've only just had chance to really look for laptops and I'm still struggling! I've narrowed it down to about 8 options. If anyone could give me an idea of which ones are better deals than others then I'd really appreciate it. :)

M&S comparison of four
Comet
Tesco 1
Tesco 2
Tesco 3

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Naoko · 07/06/2012 23:53

If it were me, I'd get the first of the Tesco ones. It's the most powerful out of the lot, and that's not a bad price for it either.

PooshTun · 08/06/2012 00:13

Netbooks were quite popular about three years ago. They basically got wiped out by the iPad.

For about £200 you can get a laptop that is good enough for surfing and email. Yes it is a bit underpowered but it has the same power as a top of the range PC from about 5 years ago. As long as you don't intend to run the latest (or any) computer games on it or do video editting on it then a netbook will do the job.

Having said that, you said that money (within reason) is not a problem. Well, for about £800 you can get an all in one desktop PC that runs Windows and has a touch screen where you can tap and swipe like an iPad screen.

HypatiaTheProcrastinator · 09/06/2012 11:53

Thankyou Naoko.
PooshTun, I know it makes no sense but I don't get on with Netbooks. I think I need a touch screen rather than a keypad on something that small. I would consider a desktop except I have no desk or room for one. I live in a one bed flat and my Mum stays a lot on the sofabed which leaves little room for a table.

If I buy one of those laptops (probably Naoko's suggestion because I'm fed up of decision making!) then I could also afford an iPad, which would be nice. :)

Thankyou all for your help!

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