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Help...my garden is the shame of the neighbourhood

30 replies

bananalover · 17/06/2010 21:02

basically, I am crap at gardening, cant tell one plant from another. Not that we actually have any plants. Our garden is a tip and an embarressment.
Main problem is the lawn...its not grass anymore, just weeds and moss.
Have tried those weedkiller granules on it, but it did not work, the weeds stayed put!
Would love to have a proper lawn and borders , I dream of borders, with flowers in
Dont have much spare time though.
Can anyone advise please, just have no idea where to start.

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GypsyMoth · 17/06/2010 21:07

i would re turf if its that bad.

i havent done borders this year.....dug over,weeded and put colourful pots on the soil (i have 3 footballing boys,a footballing dd and rabbits and a toddler)

hewlettsdaughter · 17/06/2010 21:08

bananalover - are you me?

JaxTellersOldLady · 17/06/2010 21:10

lol, are you me? We manage to cut the lawn, trim the hedge, but the garden just never looks perfect. Doesnt help that we have garden lovers on both sides of us - oh and they also have plenty time on their hands to faff around, I dont.

bananalover · 17/06/2010 21:20

we have 3 kids, one a football lover. my dh blames the state of the grass on this, thinks you can only have a nice lawn if nobody walks on it!!
its always been crap freally. when we had it first laid the ground was all uneven and sloping. think the bloke who did it was a bit of a cowboy.
have thought about returfing but dh would have a fit at the cost.
would it be more cost effective to get a gardener in to have a go at it?
woman down the road has a gardener, although i think he might be tending to more than just her roses. Anyway, i digress, would it make sense to get a proffessional in to basically start the garden off, and then i can look after it when he has done the basic stuff? iyswim

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taffetacat · 17/06/2010 21:47

I would get someone round to give you some advice, most gardeners worth their salt would be happy to provide advice.

A few people I know have had companies in to sort their lawns - there is one doing a brisk trade at the moment, lots of advertising of comedy beastly dandelions etc in fact www.greenthumb.co.uk/here you go, get a quote, and then get a quote for returfing. How big an area are you talking? Turfing isn't that much.

My DS loves football and plays every day. We have bald patches, weeds, moss etc but thats OK by me, its a family garden and the lawn still looks nice when its newly mown ( from a distance! ). I do, however, put a fair bit of time into the beds as I love gardening. I am not precious about the plants, though. I choose either robust ones or if more delicate eg delphiniums, they are hidden at the back in spots where the ball is unlikely to go. Shrubs are good, esp flowering ones, as they provide year round interest, year after year and require minimal upkeep. You could flower things up a bit with pots.

Focus on the thing thats bothering you the most first though. Its easy to see the garden needs loads of work and just get demoralised and so not start. Maybe start with the lawn this year and think about some shrubs for next?

SixtyFootDoll · 17/06/2010 21:53

GEt a cheap gardening book off Ebay for ideas
The Dr hessayon books are a good starting point.
If your neighburs are good gardeners ask ther advice, most gardeners love to share their expertise.

I am quite crap, i just read and plant stuff and give things a try, its not too hard.The main thing is having the time

jonicomelately · 17/06/2010 21:57

Go to a library and borrow a gardening book.

If you are serious about wanting a nicer garden it would be helpful to learn the basics. It isn't difficult, but there are a few things you need to learn or you run the risk of making expensive mistakes.

It's also a very good idea to get hold of a copy of 'the yellow book.' This tells you which gardens in your area are having open days (I mean, ordinary people's gardens not stately homes). This is a brillaint source of ideas and inspiration. I just bet you can't wait to get stuck in once you've seen what other people have achieved. It's relatively cheap and they usually lay on fantastic cakes. Trust me, you'll enjoy it.

jonicomelately · 17/06/2010 21:58

Great minds eh SixtyFootDoll.

SixtyFootDoll · 17/06/2010 22:01
Grin
scurryfunge · 17/06/2010 22:03

Section it off to make small pieces manageable....a bit of lawn, some gravel, some decking, some raised beds...then do one bit at a time...agree if lawn has had it....re turf.

bananalover · 17/06/2010 22:37

garden not very big actually, so advice to section off into sep parts wont work...too small.
have read so many gardening books now...still none the wiser...apparently i am supposed to test my soil...what??
watch gardeners world religiously, but it might as well be in chinese, just goes straight over my head!
and i never miss watching chelsea flower show...so envious of greenfingered folk.

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GypsyMoth · 17/06/2010 22:38

keep it plain and simple...maybe shrubs rather than bedding plants....the odd tub for colour

and the turf...

SixtyFootDoll · 17/06/2010 22:40

Flowering shrubs are good require little maintenance
I like Lavender
Buddleia
Hostas are great so easy and come back year after year

bananalover · 17/06/2010 22:46

god...lavender, we had that in front garden and ripped it all out...on dear, another booboo.

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kitsmummy · 18/06/2010 11:58

If you put bark on the flower beds, between the plants, it's a godsend for keeping the weeds down. Plants that are already there will grow up and through the bark, but weeds won't be able to reach the dirt to settle and grow. If you have a load of earth exposed it will be covered in weeds in no time.

meltedmarsbars · 18/06/2010 13:27

Ask your neighbours for advice, stressing the practical aspects of football-proofing!

I'm sure they'll be glad to offer advice on planting.

Ph testing the soil is not necessary - only for the geeky gardeners. I have no idea of the ph of my soil.

Have a look in the neighbours gardens then go to a garden centre and buy a few plants. I'd suggest catmint and hardy geraniums and maybe low-growing marjoram or thyme for flower beds.

As the other posters say, takle it one small bit at a time.

Pootles2010 · 18/06/2010 13:36

If your kids keep kicking balls into borders, might be an idea to get some raised beds, and also as someone else mentioned some tubs dotted around patio for colour. Talk to people you know who are gardeners, keen gardeners love to give advice and help out, you may find they'll often send plants your way as well.

JackieNo · 18/06/2010 13:42

I'd definitely recommend the GreenThumb people - our lawn was dreadful, covered in thistles, and (years ago now) when DD was just starting to toddle, we realised there was no way we could let her go out there on it, so got them in, and it's really quite presentable now. Still some bits of moss in the shady areas (and a bit brown atm, because of lack of rain), but so much better. They come, I think 4 times a year, and it's (for our not enormous lawn) £16 a time, I think. I think they can also advise on reseeding etc.

bananalover · 18/06/2010 15:02

thanks will try catmint and other herby stuff. might give greethumb a go too, seem reasonable.
also, does anyone know how fast ivy grows, need to cover a nasty fence quickly.

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ANTagony · 18/06/2010 15:21

Are you sure you want lawn?

Its just lawn for someone who says they don't have a lot of time for the garden is rather high maintenance to keep nice and is less practical than other surfaces in the wetter months.

Lawns need mowing every week really Easter - October, they need feeding, edging, scarifying, aerating, being left to recover, being reseeded etc.

In the same time you'd commit to a lawn, you could have some really lovely boarders with a selection of evergreen shrubs and then a few annual bedding plants so you can change your colours and add interest.

Instead of lawn theres gravel, paving, brick/ blockwork, tarmac (don't just think black it can be laid in all sorts of colours), decking or a mixture of any of these.

Regarding fast growing stuff some rambling clematis would cover your nasty fence in their first summer. The problem with anything really fast growing is it wont stop when the fence is covered - it'll keep growing then if not pruned end up top heavy shadding whats underneath, the lower leaves will die back exposing the fence again and the top growth will look like a scraggly mess.

Have you thought about something like a reed screen that you can fix to the fence and then grow attractive slower growing climbers through it?

I know its not what you asked but throws potentially some more ideas into the pot

bananalover · 18/06/2010 18:49

trust me, if it were up to my dh, it would all be covered in block paving, actually no he wants decking.
think we need some lawn though for the kids to play on. have got gravel on front garden but the cats all use it as a giant cat litter tray!

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SixtyFootDoll · 18/06/2010 22:29

Dont plant ivy it is a nightmare. gets everywhere

ThatVikRinA22 · 18/06/2010 22:33

marking spot as the op could have been mine except i also need a new wall and a new drive and a new garage,

or a new house.

bananalover · 19/06/2010 11:23

i thought ivy was good at covering things such as walls and fences. whenever i see a lovely old fashioned cottage, it always seems to have ivy growing up the walls...is this not good then? thought it might offer a quick fix, and that i could just leave it to spread and sort itself out...no?

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littlerach · 19/06/2010 11:46

Ivy is a PITA.

Things that have grown well and reasoably quickly in our garden are lavender, roses, camelia and forsythia.

WE have very clay soil (you can see th elumps of clay in it when you dig) so a lot doesn't grow.

The first year we bought a cottage garden seed mix and literally scattrede it all over the bed. It all grew and re seeded so needed little care.

We laso have ox eye daisys which grow everywhere.

We turfed one area, then had flower beds round the edge, then an area with bark chippings fo rthe shed, trampoline and girls' stuff.

WE also have some raised veg plots.

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