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vigorous, fragrant climber for a sunny corner

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GoldenSnitch · 09/04/2010 16:59

Right outside our lounge window is a sunny corner where the patio table goes. It's N/E facing so gets all the morning sun and is a lovely place to sit in the summer.

Up until about 2 years ago, there was a vine growing up the wall but it got covered in some small, brown, blister-looking bugs which seemed to suck the life from it and it died.

The areas been empty for a while now and I want to put a new plant back.

My plan is to put wires up the wall and across the top to create a little covered triangle and grow something fragrant along it to create a little bit of shade in that area and enhance the patio. I'd like something quite vigorous that would cover the structure quite quickly but not something that's going to end up so dense that it will make the corner dark. Something with lovely flowers.

Can anyone help out a novice and give me some suggestions?

All I can think of is Jasmine!

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Kathyjelly · 09/04/2010 17:08

What about one of the scented climbing roses. Gives you a bit more choice of colour.

If you go for jasmine, you could plant a clematis through it so you get two lots of flowers.

moondog · 09/04/2010 17:13

I know bugger all but I do know that clematis always great.
I also put in some hops a year or two ago (inspired by a lovely restaurant we used to go to in Turkey) and they look great.

GrendelsMum · 09/04/2010 17:24

I've found that honeysuckle does better at really scenting a garden than anything else, to the point where I step into the garden and its filled with fragrance - I have a south-facing pergola covered in clematis, roses and honeysuckle - the honeysuckle looks dull but smells wonderful, whereas the roses and clematis look good but don't really have much scent. I'd combine a couple of things, and make sure that whatever they are, they have the RHS's AGM award.

moondog · 09/04/2010 17:25

Ooh yes, honeysuckle.
Utterly lovely.

FlyMeToDunoon · 09/04/2010 17:42

I haven't had much luck with honeysuckle sadly [blackfly] but second the roses/clematis route.
I also have a jasmine but the flowering period is quite short and thereafter you just have a Very vigorous green hedge.
Maybe two or three different clematis to flower throughout the season. For instance clematis armandii is very nice at this time of year. Scented and evergreen. Then have a summer flowering one and an autumn one.

GoldenSnitch · 09/04/2010 17:45

We've got a scented climbing rose growing up one of our fences. It's called "Wedding Day" and it is the spikiest thing ever!! (wonder if that's some sort of metaphor )

I don't want anything spikey on the patio really. You'd lean back and !

Will look up hops...

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GoldenSnitch · 09/04/2010 17:46

I like that Clematis idea FlyMeToDunoon!

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Helium · 10/04/2010 20:58

Sweet peas?

GoldenSnitch · 10/04/2010 21:03

Don't you have to plant new one's every year though? Would they ever make it all the way to the top and over?

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LittlePushka · 10/04/2010 21:21

Climbing rose "Mme Alfred Carriere".

Really vigourous - beautiful full white blooms - loads of them, they keep on coming and they smell divine.

Lovely dark green shiny foliage

woodchuck · 10/04/2010 21:31

how about a blue passionflower? They are so interesting looking and fragrant too

GoldenSnitch · 10/04/2010 21:33

Oooh, pretty!

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Helium · 10/04/2010 21:51

I grew sweet peas last year and saved the pods for seeds this year - must have missed a couple as I noticed in about November that I had a new sweet pea plant growing - it survived the winter (although it is right next to my house) and looking quite vigorous now!

MadamDeathstare · 10/04/2010 21:55

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GoldenSnitch · 10/04/2010 21:59

"Wedding Day" is a David Austin I think.

Freaked out about the Passionflower now!! Amazed that a flower can drill through bricks! Definitely not a good idea for the back wall of my house. Seems a bit triffid-like.

Back to the Clematis and Climbing (thornless) rose idea I think.

Maybe with a winter flowering Honeysuckle. Wondering if I can find a flower for all seasons so that the trellis is constantly flowering??

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Pannacotta · 10/04/2010 22:13

If you wanted to use just Clematis you could have flowers all year round:
Spring - C armandii or alpina (neither need pruning to flower well, choose armandii Little White Charm if you dont want it to get too big)
Summer - most, depends which colour flower you want, viticella are the easiest
Autumn - a repeat flowering clematis will carry on until autumn
Winter - cirrhosa or Winter Beauty
www.thorncroftclematis.co.uk/shop/section.php?xSec=33&xPage=1

Have a look here for more info
www.clematisplants.co.uk/clematis-plant-catalogue.htm

There are other specialist clematis suppliers on-line too.

GoldenSnitch · 11/04/2010 08:51

Thanks Pannacotta, that's fab!

(fab name too by the way. Everytime I read it, I want to go to Strada just for the pudding )

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GoldenSnitch · 11/04/2010 20:49

Quite ashamed to say I don't need to google it

We'll spoke to my Mum this afternoon and she thinks this is a great idea and has said she wants to buy the plants as a gift for my upcoming birthday...

So, I need to choose. I want at least some evergreens, lots of flowers, lots of colour, lots of scent and year round interest..what shall I ask for?

All Clematis or shall I mix some Roses in? Mum suggested Wisteria??

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Pannacotta · 11/04/2010 22:14

Wisteria really needs a South facing wall to flower best.
Clematis armandii is great and one of mine flowers well on an East facing wall.
Roses mostly do better in plenty of sun and good, clay soil, so I think your decision depends on your soil and the amount of sun you get.
There are other climbers yoy could use, HOneysuckle is great for scent and will do well im semi-shade, some are evergreen too.
www.bluebellnursery.com/catalogue/climbers/Lonicera/L/1668
They smell lovely at night as well as during the day, which is nice if you use your patio after dark

GoldenSnitch · 12/04/2010 13:14

The area is a corner made up of the back wall of our house (east facing) and the garage wall (south facing) so Wisteria might work??

I have a honeysuckle in the garden as I'd heard that did well on North facing walls so I'm trying to grown it up the fence. Love the idea of it smelling good at night. Mum suggested wrapping outdoor fairy lights over the wires too to make a lovely place to sit in the evenings.

Getting quite excited about this now

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GoldenSnitch · 12/04/2010 13:15

Just realised I put N/E facing in the op!

It's definitely S/E, sorry

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Pannacotta · 12/04/2010 15:05

I wouldn't plant a Wisteria on an East facing wall, South would be fine, but a garage wall is prob too low, also they are high maintenance and need pruning twice a year to flower well.
I think you are better off with other things but your choice of course and depends on how much time you want to dedicate to eg pruning.

Fialry lights would be lovely, we have some solar failry lights by our patio and they look great at night.

GoldenSnitch · 12/04/2010 16:38

Our garage has a proper pitched roof and the side that faces into the garden is tall enough to reach the guttering above the upstairs window of our 2 storey house...but the pruning puts me off. I'm not really a very good gardener and with a 3 year old and a 3 month old, time is at a premium!

I didn't even know solar fairy lights existed! That would save drilling into the garage for power

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Pannacotta · 12/04/2010 16:51

Unless you can get someone to prune it for you I dont recommend it. They do need to be pruned to flower well so are quite high maintenance.
Climbers for scent include Clem armandii, honeysuckles, roses, Akebia, jasmine, Trachelospermum (which is also evergreen and flowers for ages in the summer) so you have plenty of choice...