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What can I replace my beloved climbing rose with?

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100PercentFaithful · 12/04/2025 13:52

I had a beautiful, fragrant, pink climbing rose which grew on a trellis up the side of my house. It grew round my window and I absolutely loved it.
Last year I was really upset when it suddenly died almost overnight. I’ve no idea why, everything else near it was fine. It was however old, maybe 30-odd years so perhaps it was just that.
I planned to plant another rose as I loved the old one so much, but after a bit of internet research have realised that’s not going to be possible.
What can I replace it with?
The wall is brick, south facing and has a small border infront of it. The border has forget-me-nots, daffodils and amarines in it. It gets hot there. We are in the south of England.

I’m not keen on honeysuckle or jasmine as I think they get too big and don’t like the woody stems that build up over the years - I could prune my rose back to a neat framework over winter.

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100PercentFaithful · 12/04/2025 13:53

PS I left the old framework of the rose to see if it might have some shoots this year, but there is nothing- it’s definitely dead.

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TheHorticulturalHussy · 12/04/2025 14:02

Passion Flower? I have 2 and they're fabulous. Grow very quickly.
Though it would also be lovely to train a fig tree against that wall, unless you don't like figs?
No reason really why you couldn't do both.

Jammymare · 12/04/2025 15:28

Wisteria would love the heat of you don’t mind the short flowering season. Otherwise I’d go for annuals like black eyed Susan for few years and then replant a rose

user31908734289 · 12/04/2025 16:10

If you loved the rose, have another!
Either dig all the soil out and replace with new or wait a year and replant.
Plant a climbing annual for this year.
Or there are lots of lovely clematis that would like that position, just put a pathing stone over the roots, they don't like scorched feet!

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 12/04/2025 16:15

You can replant with a rose but you need to a couple of other things first.

Dig out the old rose and a make a sizeable hole for the new one, moving the dug out soil elsewhere. Put a cardboard box into the hole, fill with a loam rich compost and plant the rose into that. By the time the roots reach the edges of the box, the rose re-plant disease should have gone.

I've done this many times and it works.

Exitpursuedbygeese · 12/04/2025 16:17

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 12/04/2025 16:15

You can replant with a rose but you need to a couple of other things first.

Dig out the old rose and a make a sizeable hole for the new one, moving the dug out soil elsewhere. Put a cardboard box into the hole, fill with a loam rich compost and plant the rose into that. By the time the roots reach the edges of the box, the rose re-plant disease should have gone.

I've done this many times and it works.

Genius, thank you for sharing!

ToBeOrNotToBee · 12/04/2025 16:18

How about a clematis.
Winter beauty is a gorgeous one. Evergreen. And flowers over winter.
Truly stunning.

100PercentFaithful · 12/04/2025 21:39

Thanks! Some great ideas. I didn’t think you could replant a rose there.
I’m going to research all the ideas this evening.

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canthavethatonethen · 12/04/2025 21:48

What about campsis, the trumpet vine?

Raquelos · 12/04/2025 21:57

Ooooh if you are going to replant a rose, have a look at the Alexandre Girault variety from David Austin. It's amazing. I planted one in the bottom corner of my garden 3 years ago and it now covers the whole back third of my fences on both sides and flowers manically for a couple of months from about May. I love it. https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/products/alexandre-girault?

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Pixiedust1234 · 12/04/2025 22:42

That looks stunning @Raquelos

senua · 12/04/2025 22:45

100PercentFaithful · 12/04/2025 21:39

Thanks! Some great ideas. I didn’t think you could replant a rose there.
I’m going to research all the ideas this evening.

The received wisdom is that you don't plant a new rose in the soil where an old rose was. But I have heard, as per Vegemiteandhoneyontoast's post, the advice that if you totally replace the soil then the wisdom is redundant.

I was trying to remember where I heard the advice (?David Austin, Peter Beales?) but have found it on the RHS website.

Replant disease / RHS

Replant disease / RHS

Replant disorder or replant disease refers to the problem of re-establishing plants in soil where the same species was grown previously. Roses are particularly prone, though it can affect other trees and shrubs.

https://www.rhs.org.uk/prevention-protection/replant-disease

100PercentFaithful · 13/04/2025 09:16

I’m quite excited about having something new now.

I don’t want something that grows too big so, sadly, I think the rambling rose and passion flower are out. If there was a small passion flower I would definitely have gone for that.

Currently thinking of a winter clematis (never knew there was such a thing!) and wondering if I can grow an summer flowering annual through it? Maybe something like a Morning Glory.

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Calliopespa · 13/04/2025 09:18

user31908734289 · 12/04/2025 16:10

If you loved the rose, have another!
Either dig all the soil out and replace with new or wait a year and replant.
Plant a climbing annual for this year.
Or there are lots of lovely clematis that would like that position, just put a pathing stone over the roots, they don't like scorched feet!

Yes you just have to wait op. Even six months is normally to be enough. Better still, replace the foil - it doesn’t need to be a huge area, just deep enough for the roots.

Calliopespa · 13/04/2025 09:23

Calliopespa · 13/04/2025 09:18

Yes you just have to wait op. Even six months is normally to be enough. Better still, replace the foil - it doesn’t need to be a huge area, just deep enough for the roots.

Oh I just read the useful link another post supplied and the six months seems to be cutting it too fine. But the cardboard box was a good idea!

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 13/04/2025 09:27

Climbing hydrangea?
I am wary of clematis as they so often seem to get wilt and die.

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