North facing wall - Madame Alfred Carriere?

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I’ve recently moved to a house that faces true North. There is a little soiled area next to the front door and underneath a window that I would like to utilise, but because it faces true North it gets 0 sunlight at anytime of year. There is also an upstairs bay window that sticks out and shelters the area from any potential westerly sun too.

Someone has recommended Madame Alfred Carrier (climbing rose) but not sure if it would actually flower in 0 sun. Does anyone here know, or have any other suggestions to pretty plants that would grow in deep shade?

Mme Alfred Carriere is an enormous rose. I look after one which is on the gable end of a barn. David Austin roses have good filters so you could find one that way. I have Rose 'Dortmund' on my north porch but it does get some sun.

The question of a north-facing wall came up on GQT this week. Link here, question at 4:40 approx. They suggested rosa mary delaney.

Or New Dawn

I would recommend "Dublin Bay" It's a good red, repeat flowering, not too rampant and easy to control, and flowers profifically. I have one on my north fence, in a very narrow shady "corridor" at the back of the kitchen and it's 100% reliable!

I have Mme Alfred Carriere on a NNW facing wall. It does very well there and the scent is lovely. It was a martyr to greenfly the first couple of years but now hale and hearty and taking chunks out of me whenever I try to prune it...

There are lots of other more shade tolerant flowering shrubs. I have a beautiful white Japanese quince in my front garden and a really good white flowering currant that I've pruned to be a wall shrub rather than a bush. I also have a viburnum tinus under a large tree than copes with shade. Much easier to find supporting rather than summer flowering shrubs for shade.
I planted an Alfred carrierre for a client once, it was very vigorous and I found the flowers a bit too untidy.

I have Mme Alfred on a North wall. It does get some late sun for about half the year and is very happy. Definitely a vigorous and large rose though so will take all the space you can give!

Climbing Hydrangea? Takes a while to get going, but be warned they are vigorous once they get going!

I’ve just moved a Madame Alfred Carriere from a shady East wall. It’s ok for a few years but it can get 20 ft plus tall and put on 6ft a year particularly if it’s in the shade and goes looking for the light. The harder I pruned it the more it grew and it didn’t flower much either. Choose one of the other lovely suggestions previous posters have made.

Thank you all! I’ll research of all your suggestions and have a think. The vigour of the Madame Alfred Carrier is a little daunting. I’m very new to gardening and don’t think I’ll be able to handle it.

I’m hoping mine becomes more vigorous soon! I planted it last year (on a north-facing wall), and, while it appears perfectly healthy, and is just coming into leaf, isn’t much bigger than when I planted it…

I’ve never grown Madame AC, OP, but it worked well for some friends in a front garden in almost permanent shadow, though it was eventually eaten by their more vigorous Rambling Rector.

We had one at our old house on the north facing front wall. I've just gone back in Google street view. It was never laden with blooms (possibly clumsy pruning) but grew with enthusiasm and did have a reasonable sprinkling of roses.

How long did it take to get to that size, @NotMeNoNo?

Hi, probably 8-10 years old in that picture, but it must have got to full size in about the first 5 years. Every year we were hacking off big six-eight foot long shoots. It was an absolute beast despite being in a tiny little flower bed. I would put up some substantial eyes and wires on your wall.

in the spirit of other things for north walls, this is a gorgeous scented plant for late winter and spring. I love mine

https://www.crocus.co.uk/plants/_/viburnum--carlcephalum/classid.2000012913/