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Fast growing hedge for clay soils

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CarobyBlobs · 02/01/2025 13:38

My neighbour is currently in the process of destroying the very well established hedge at the end of my garden which gives us a lot of privacy and blocks out road noise. Up to them it’s their hedge - but I would like to replace it. My ideal hedge would be:

fast growing
wide leaves for noise cancelling
pet friendly
wildlife friendly
suitable for heavy clay, sometimes waterlogged soil

That bit of garden is not waterlogged now but they’ve also removed a huge tree and are concreting the land so I suspect my marshy garden is about to get a lot wetter. I was going to go for red robin but it’s not really wildlife friendly so I wondered what else I should consider. Things I like like holly are far too slow growing.

also the best place to buy mature plants as cheap as possible would be good. I’m also open to a variety of plants to put in together as long as they meet the requirements.

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Geneticsbunny · 02/01/2025 14:37

Willow is fast growing and loves wet feet.

Harrysmummy246 · 02/01/2025 17:18

Are you wanting green all year? What kind of budget/ length to plant?

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 02/01/2025 17:22

Laurel. but it can get BIG. Although you can cut it back quite harshly without a problem
(well i did!)

Harrysmummy246 · 02/01/2025 17:27

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 02/01/2025 17:22

Laurel. but it can get BIG. Although you can cut it back quite harshly without a problem
(well i did!)

Doesn't necessarily fulfill the wildlife benefit required

CarobyBlobs · 02/01/2025 17:47

At a guess currently around 8ft long. I don’t know if the neighbours are done removing the hedge yet (they could leave it how it is and it would look reasonable) and haven’t been able to catch them to be able to ask so it could be as much as up to 30ft

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TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 02/01/2025 20:09

Harrysmummy246 · 02/01/2025 17:27

Doesn't necessarily fulfill the wildlife benefit required

'An array of British birds and other small animals adore the luscious berries that laurel hedging plants produce, bringing added wildlife value to a garden. Bay Laurel is the only member of the Laurel family that is both edible and fragrant.'

'Laurel plants are great for nesting birds. If you are aware of wildlife and enjoy spotting birds Laurel may well be the hedge of choice for you. Also, because Laurel are so hardy they will rarely suffer from the dreaded 'dead patches' found on conifer or privet hedges sometimes.'

FloralGums · 02/01/2025 20:19

Beech. They are wonderful things. The leaves turn golden in the autumn and they hold them all through the winter until the new green leaves push them off in the spring.
Wonderful for nesting birds and have hedgehogs too.

Porridgeislife · 02/01/2025 20:26

An alder hedge fits the bill. Likes water, native, grows 40-60cm a year and wildlife love it.

Laurel would also work but it’s less useful for wildlife and I’m sick of seeing them growing in woodland.

Whatever you go for, factor in twice yearly pruning.

MereDintofPandiculation · 03/01/2025 09:09

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 02/01/2025 20:09

'An array of British birds and other small animals adore the luscious berries that laurel hedging plants produce, bringing added wildlife value to a garden. Bay Laurel is the only member of the Laurel family that is both edible and fragrant.'

'Laurel plants are great for nesting birds. If you are aware of wildlife and enjoy spotting birds Laurel may well be the hedge of choice for you. Also, because Laurel are so hardy they will rarely suffer from the dreaded 'dead patches' found on conifer or privet hedges sometimes.'

That quote seems to be a bit muddled between Cherry Laurel (Prunus laurocerasus) which is the berry bearing one and Laurus nobilis, the Bay Laurel, or Bay, which is the one we use as a herb. Although Bay produces berries, they’re not an obvious feature of the plant in the UK. Cherry Laurel is what is referred to in adverts for “Laurel” in hedging.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 03/01/2025 09:16

MereDintofPandiculation · 03/01/2025 09:09

That quote seems to be a bit muddled between Cherry Laurel (Prunus laurocerasus) which is the berry bearing one and Laurus nobilis, the Bay Laurel, or Bay, which is the one we use as a herb. Although Bay produces berries, they’re not an obvious feature of the plant in the UK. Cherry Laurel is what is referred to in adverts for “Laurel” in hedging.

It is two different quotes.

MereDintofPandiculation · 03/01/2025 10:50

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 03/01/2025 09:16

It is two different quotes.

You mean "An array of British birds and other small animals adore the luscious berries that laurel hedging plants produce, bringing added wildlife value to a garden. Bay Laurel is the only member of the Laurel family that is both edible and fragrant." is two different quotes that you have elided together to appear as one?

"An array of British birds and other small animals adore the luscious berries that laurel hedging plants produce, bringing added wildlife value to a garden." is talking about Prunus laurocerasus

"Bay Laurel is the only member of the Laurel family that is both edible and fragrant." is talking about Laurus nobilis, in a different family. What relevance has it to the first sentence?

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 03/01/2025 11:08

MereDintofPandiculation · 03/01/2025 10:50

You mean "An array of British birds and other small animals adore the luscious berries that laurel hedging plants produce, bringing added wildlife value to a garden. Bay Laurel is the only member of the Laurel family that is both edible and fragrant." is two different quotes that you have elided together to appear as one?

"An array of British birds and other small animals adore the luscious berries that laurel hedging plants produce, bringing added wildlife value to a garden." is talking about Prunus laurocerasus

"Bay Laurel is the only member of the Laurel family that is both edible and fragrant." is talking about Laurus nobilis, in a different family. What relevance has it to the first sentence?

It's two different quotes -

from the Internet, that big, unreliable thing.

flameofgerontius · 03/01/2025 11:09

Portuguese laurel flowers in spring, then sets berries which the birds LOVE

MereDintofPandiculation · 03/01/2025 13:19

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 03/01/2025 11:08

It's two different quotes -

from the Internet, that big, unreliable thing.

You had two paragraphs, in separate quote marks. The two sentences I quoted are both from the first paragraph, which you seem to be saying is itself two separate quotes, so that you have three separate quotes in your post.

If the first paragraph is in fact one quote not two, then it is muddled, and not to be relied on, which was worth pointing out for gardeners not familiar with these two species.

MereDintofPandiculation · 03/01/2025 13:21

flameofgerontius · 03/01/2025 11:09

Portuguese laurel flowers in spring, then sets berries which the birds LOVE

Prunus lusitanica, related to Cherry laurel but different family from Bay laurel.

unsync · 03/01/2025 14:06

Native hedging. A mix of blackthorn, hornbeam, dog rose, hazel, field maple etc. You can plant it bareroot in the spring. Grows fairly fast and tick if you double plant. Great for wildlife. https://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/native-hedging

To suck up water, Willow. We have White Willow (Salix Alba), you can pollard or coppice to make sure they don't get out of hand. If you can find someone who has one, you can take a whip from it, stick it in the ground and it should root. We also have Weeping Willows, they are a PITA for maintenance.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 04/01/2025 01:10

Pyracantha - it grows well, we have clay soil.
Beautiful berries that the birds love .
Good hiding spaces for wildlife
And great for security as it is a jaggy little blighter ! Not sure how pet friendly you'd say it is . I trim the low branches so my cats don't catch themselves .

TheSpottedZebra · 04/01/2025 19:54

I also suggest a veto of blackthorn as it's not pet friendly.

It's really, horribly prickly.

blackbadger · 04/01/2025 19:56

We have Portuguese laurel and whilst it is not as wildlife friendly as other native hedges, we have an enormous array of wildlife in our garden, and the birds like the berries. It looks fantastic and it fast growing

Harrysmummy246 · 04/01/2025 19:58

TheSpottedZebra · 04/01/2025 19:54

I also suggest a veto of blackthorn as it's not pet friendly.

It's really, horribly prickly.

So is hawthorn, but that tends to mean the dogs stay inside the garden better (not fenced everywhere)

Tumbleweed101 · 05/01/2025 09:38

Native fast growers are hazel, elder and willow. All can be kept as a hedge so long as you cut them back and train them regularly.

Tumbleweed101 · 05/01/2025 09:40

Buddleja as grow quickly.

Saz12 · 27/01/2025 23:04

Willow as a living fence - depending on how densely you weave it together it can let light through or be solid like a hedge. The flowers /catkins are great for early nectar & pollen, it will love wet conditions, you can weave it into a structure easily, and choose your height. You can find amazing stem colours, particularly nice in the winter. And it will take up lots of water!

It's cheap and fast growing but doesn't need to be thick like a hedge would, doesn't produce loads of hedge cuttings twice a year.

It's not great for nesting birds (not dense enough), nor does it produce berries. But the pollen is great for early bees.

FaeFay · 27/01/2025 23:32

Tumbleweed101 · 05/01/2025 09:40

Buddleja as grow quickly.

It grows so quickly but isn't native and not optimum for wildlife compared with other things. It's called butterfly bush because it attracts butterflies but doesn't support caterpillars or larvae

FaeFay · 27/01/2025 23:33

I would go with Willow which will help with harshness

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