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Garden Lawns - Old fashioned?

103 replies

Fungkew · 06/07/2024 07:37

I can’t help but think the lawn is primarily a waste of space.
Always strikes me as something people maintain to keep up appearances rather than something they actually want.
I hate seeing a ‘perfectly manicured’ lawn in the knowledge that it has most likely had no end of fertiliser, weed killer etc applied to achieve its perfect appearance. In my opinion they are very dated and the space could be put to far better use.
Hopefully younger generations will put this space to better use. Most people probably don’t even consider that grass seed is a plant that is supposed to grow tall, not have its head chopped off every couple of weeks. The clover that grows among it is natural. What’s with this horrendous human obsession with perfection. It’s just soulless and anti nature.
I hope that the younger generations replace it with something more useful and environmentally friendly, unlike their mindless predecessors.
Dont even get me started on artificial turf…

OP posts:
HungryLittleCrocodile · 06/07/2024 16:28

Rondel · 06/07/2024 12:58

The bowling green type lawn was absolutely the norm where I lived (large Midlands village) - at least in the front gardens. Yes, I’m sure back lawns hare used for the ‘practical reasons’ you list, but front gardens generally aren’t, especially in estates where a covenant means they have to be unfenced. They were chemically treated, obsessively tended, mown to within an inch of their lives, watered, and competitively gossiped over. My tolerance for clover, buttercups and daisies in mine was a local scandal.

Where on EARTH do you live @Rondel ? On the set of Desperate Housewives? Confused I don't know a single SOUL who is obsessive over their front lawn(s), cutting within an inch of its life, and gossiping about other peoples front lawns!

What a bizarre take on what peoples front lawns are like. God forbid people have attractive neat lawns with a few daisies and dandelions in for the bees and butterflies! Oh the horror! clutches pearls furiously Shock

What a bizarre post, and a gross exaggeration of many peoples front gardens/front lawns. 🙄

You - and several others - clearly have some kind of issues with people having front lawns, but I genuinely cannot fathom why! Confused Never seen anything or heard like it in real life ever.

Stainglasses · 06/07/2024 16:33

A lawn is less work than more beds and paths that need weeding and there is no need to do anything other than quickly mow (no weed killer or fertiliser or anything). so I totally disagree. It’s the least demanding and most rewarding part of my garden.

RaspberryIce · 06/07/2024 16:39

I've got a small lawn, which is practical as I can dry washing. The lawn isn't much wider than the rotary line! People can also sit on it. I'm trying to grow daisies in it at the moment which I grew from seeds. I'd love to have a lawn of daisies if I can get the seedlings to spread. They haven't yet. I've got lots of flowers along the edge of it

Labracdabra · 06/07/2024 16:39

the single marsh orchid that appeared about 7 years ago has increased to 79 flower spikes this year.

@MereDintofPandiculation is that just not because of all the rain? They seem to be everywhere i go this year

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 06/07/2024 16:39

I like my back garden lawn but I hate the part at the front which is 100% a keeping up appearances thing. Still wondering what I should do with it. It would be great for growing fruit but I guess people will nick it

MereDintofPandiculation · 06/07/2024 17:22

Labracdabra · 06/07/2024 16:39

the single marsh orchid that appeared about 7 years ago has increased to 79 flower spikes this year.

@MereDintofPandiculation is that just not because of all the rain? They seem to be everywhere i go this year

Yes, it’s been a good year for orchids, but these have been showing a steady increase year on year since the mowing stopped. While the land was being mowed, there were no orchids to be seen, and precious little of anything else

MereDintofPandiculation · 06/07/2024 17:27

Stainglasses · 06/07/2024 16:33

A lawn is less work than more beds and paths that need weeding and there is no need to do anything other than quickly mow (no weed killer or fertiliser or anything). so I totally disagree. It’s the least demanding and most rewarding part of my garden.

My perception is the other way round. If I weed a bed, that’s it for a few months. If I mow the lawn, it needs doing again a week later

user09090909E · 06/07/2024 17:38

I can’t help but think the lawn is primarily a waste of space.

football pitch, badminton court, gymnastics mat, climbing frame holder, picnic space, wrestling mat, cricket pitch, yoga space, sunbathing spot....

Myblindsaredown · 06/07/2024 17:40

MereDintofPandiculation · 06/07/2024 17:27

My perception is the other way round. If I weed a bed, that’s it for a few months. If I mow the lawn, it needs doing again a week later

Wow, how do you keep your beds weed free for 3 months or more. Never heard of that.

Stainglasses · 06/07/2024 17:45

Myblindsaredown · 06/07/2024 17:40

Wow, how do you keep your beds weed free for 3 months or more. Never heard of that.

Yes agree, weeds pop up here all the time. That’s why I can’t face more beds and am eyeing some up to turn into lawn

Myblindsaredown · 06/07/2024 18:03

Stainglasses · 06/07/2024 17:45

Yes agree, weeds pop up here all the time. That’s why I can’t face more beds and am eyeing some up to turn into lawn

Me too, beds are a huge amount of work in my garden, lawn so much easier.

Musiclover234 · 06/07/2024 18:07

Weeds pop up daily in my beds!

We have a lawn to the back small garden and i love it. I don’t see them as old fashioned. No weed killer: Mowed twice a month maybe. The birds love it and always insects around. Great also when it rains.

I’m going to add another border at the back of it next year but we have a flower bed and lots of planters with various types in them. It’s a work in progress…

Our front is a drive area that was concreted over before we got it. Many in my street are the same. Not huge front gardens anyway so no real lawns more flower beds. This hasn’t affected the price of houses either house prices are £100-130k more than what we paid 7 years ago.

WaftherAngelsthroughtheskies · 06/07/2024 18:34

My house is 600 years old. Inside and out, everything about it is dated, which is just the way we like it. If the lawn didn't look old-fashioned I think the wisteria, lavender and cobbles would do the trick. Ours might be an extreme example but I don't see why a victorian or 20th century house shouldn't look like it belongs in its setting too, by virtue of timeless gardens such as lawns and borders. A lawn is a family's green lung, why must it be a question of fashion? Why should a garden look modern unless that's your aesthetic of choice?
Plastic 'grass' on the other hand is the Devil's work and should be banned.

thesustainablegardener · 06/07/2024 21:01

Labracdabra · 06/07/2024 16:39

the single marsh orchid that appeared about 7 years ago has increased to 79 flower spikes this year.

@MereDintofPandiculation is that just not because of all the rain? They seem to be everywhere i go this year

Hello All,

Common spotted orchid in the Alpine Meadow at Wisley this year.

Happy gardening
ThesistainableGardener

Garden Lawns - Old fashioned?
MereDintofPandiculation · 06/07/2024 21:02

Myblindsaredown · 06/07/2024 17:40

Wow, how do you keep your beds weed free for 3 months or more. Never heard of that.

I doubt whether they’re weed free but the beds are densely planted and it takes that long for the weeds to make their presence felt.

pollingstationpooch · 06/07/2024 21:02

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thesustainablegardener · 06/07/2024 21:22

MereDintofPandiculation · 06/07/2024 17:27

My perception is the other way round. If I weed a bed, that’s it for a few months. If I mow the lawn, it needs doing again a week later

Hello MereDintofPandiculation,

I completed agree

Maintained in the traditional way, cutting, edging, weeding, feeding, watering, aerating, scarifying, clearing leaves 🍂 in the autumn and pest and diseases control a lawn is the most labour intensive feature in the garden.

Happy gardening
👩‍🌾

FranklySonImTheGaffer · 06/07/2024 21:59

We had one big lawn when we moved in - we dug up a quarter of it for a patio and have split the remaining in 2 by putting a path in the middle.

I love the grass. Nieces and nephews like playing on it, it's so nice to have some colour out there even in winter and we're not fussy over it so it's low maintenance.
It's not perfect (or flat) but I don't care, plus we regularly get birds hopping around it pulling up worms/bugs.

I've got various pots and planters and eventually I'd like to add some beds around the edges.

I wish I had some grass at the front too but it was all paved over when we bought the house.

I don't think lawns look old fashioned at all.

Saschka · 06/07/2024 22:04

Love our lawn. DS plays football and swing ball, I lie on a picnic rug to read. Very low maintenance, we just move it every two weeks.

What’s the alternative, concrete it over?

Myblindsaredown · 06/07/2024 22:08

thesustainablegardener · 06/07/2024 21:22

Hello MereDintofPandiculation,

I completed agree

Maintained in the traditional way, cutting, edging, weeding, feeding, watering, aerating, scarifying, clearing leaves 🍂 in the autumn and pest and diseases control a lawn is the most labour intensive feature in the garden.

Happy gardening
👩‍🌾

Oh I don’t do all that. No wonder you find beds easier, goodness. I’ve Never fed, aerated, weeded or watered my lawn and it’s superb. We cut it in spring and summer, early autumn from once a week to every two or three. Strim the edges. Blow the leaves once in winter that’s it. Do people actually go out and weed their lawns?

RaspberryIce · 06/07/2024 22:10

I don't even know what scarifying a lawn involves, so I'm probably not doing it. I just mow it.

plainjayne8282 · 07/07/2024 00:31

ToplessWordle · 06/07/2024 07:59

I love my lawn! It's somewhere where my kids can play, where I can hang washing out to dry, where my pets can lie in the sun, where my DC can pitch a tent and camp out, where my DD can do gymnastics al fresco...It's definitely not a waste of space here and I wouldn't buy a family home without a decent lawn.

I do agree re the "perfectly manicured" look, and have no problem with clover, which maintains its lush green look even when the actual grass goes brown in the summer. And I hate artificial grass with a passion.

What would you have people replace their lawns with, OP?

Agree with all of this.

I do generally prefer a more wild garden, but it's never crossed my mind that a lawn is dated / old fashioned. I have a lot of wildness in my garden (wild sections, and the perimiter around the lawn) but I need the open space for all the reasons @ToplessWordle mentions.

Lawn would never put me off a house. Lots of concrete / slabbing absolutely would.

And I agree, I hate artificial grass.

MegsNaiceJam · 07/07/2024 00:39

We swapped our old electric mower for a push type when we worked out how much £s in electricity it was costing us to cut the grass.
So much better with the push mower for our pockets and the environment.
our lawn is full of moss and clover. We get a lot of slugs which means we also have hedgehogs. Would not swap out lawn for anything else

MereDintofPandiculation · 07/07/2024 09:05

Saschka · 06/07/2024 22:04

Love our lawn. DS plays football and swing ball, I lie on a picnic rug to read. Very low maintenance, we just move it every two weeks.

What’s the alternative, concrete it over?

No. Possible alternatives have been discussed in the thread.

MereDintofPandiculation · 07/07/2024 09:08

Do people actually go out and weed their lawns? Yes. Lots of people appear on this board wanting to know of an easy way to get dandelions or buttercup out of the lawns. And garden centres sell lots of “weed and feed” products.