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What’s the name of these flowers?!

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sunnywinters · 04/07/2024 08:34

Thank you!

What’s the name of these flowers?!
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Renamed · 04/07/2024 08:37

Sweet Williams I think

itsgoingtobeabumpyride · 04/07/2024 08:37

I call them baby carnations but I think they're called Dianthus

Unescorted · 04/07/2024 08:38

Sweet William.

GertrudeJekyllAndHyde · 04/07/2024 08:40

Sweet William (dianthus barbatus)

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 04/07/2024 08:43

Sweet William! Smell wonderful.
They do look like Dianthus but the leaves on these are softer and greener. Dianthus are drier looking.

sunnywinters · 04/07/2024 08:53

Thank you!

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ForGreyKoala · 04/07/2024 09:31

Definitely Sweet William. Love the smell of them.

MereDintofPandiculation · 04/07/2024 09:50

itsgoingtobeabumpyride · 04/07/2024 08:37

I call them baby carnations but I think they're called Dianthus

Dianthus is the scientific name of the genus which includes Sweet William (Dianthus barbatus) (which are what these are), Pink (D. plumarius) and Carnation (D. caryophylla) as well as the Cheddar Pink (D. grationopolitanus) which is wild but rare in Britain, and over 300 other species.

Then to confuse things, people refer to pinks as “Dianthus” ignoring all the other species of Dianthus in the same way as we talk about “Primula”, ignoring cowslip, oxlip, primrose, birds-eye primrose, Scottish primrose, Auricula, all of which are in the genus Primula.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 04/07/2024 14:48

ForGreyKoala · 04/07/2024 09:31

Definitely Sweet William. Love the smell of them.

They don't seem to smell these days! Is it only the cut ones in shops that don't smell?

Meem321 · 04/07/2024 14:57

Sweet Williams were my mum's favourite flower. ❤️

leeverarch · 04/07/2024 15:26

ifIwerenotanandroid · 04/07/2024 14:48

They don't seem to smell these days! Is it only the cut ones in shops that don't smell?

I know what you mean. They've done it to freesias as well. The plant breeders have concentrated so much on producing heavy-cropping varieties that last well when cut for flower arranging, that the scent seems to have been forgotten and bred out of them.

MereDintofPandiculation · 04/07/2024 15:45

ifIwerenotanandroid · 04/07/2024 14:48

They don't seem to smell these days! Is it only the cut ones in shops that don't smell?

The ones Ive grown from seed smell

Flossflower · 04/07/2024 15:47

Sweet Williams. Somehow I knew they would be before I opened up the thread!

ErrolTheDragon · 04/07/2024 16:28

They've done it to freesias as well. The plant breeders have concentrated so much on producing heavy-cropping varieties that last well when cut for flower arranging, that the scent seems to have been forgotten and bred out of them.

What on earth is the point of a freesia which doesn't smell? Confused
Tobacco plants are another. DF used to grow them - the flowers didn't really open till the evening but then smelt glorious. The ones you can buy now have no scent and aren't that exciting a flower tbh. Maybe the old type is available from seed?

MereDintofPandiculation · 04/07/2024 21:39

ErrolTheDragon · 04/07/2024 16:28

They've done it to freesias as well. The plant breeders have concentrated so much on producing heavy-cropping varieties that last well when cut for flower arranging, that the scent seems to have been forgotten and bred out of them.

What on earth is the point of a freesia which doesn't smell? Confused
Tobacco plants are another. DF used to grow them - the flowers didn't really open till the evening but then smelt glorious. The ones you can buy now have no scent and aren't that exciting a flower tbh. Maybe the old type is available from seed?

Yes. Try Nicotiana sylvestris, ever so easy from seed, and one plant completely fills the greenhouse with scent (they’re ok outside in the summer, but the leaves are sticky and helpful to control pests in the greenhouse)

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