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Can anyone identify this plant?

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Therealmetherealme · 14/06/2024 08:21

This weed is taking up space in one of my flowerbeds, but I sprinkled a lot of seeds last year and don't want to remove it in case it might flower. Does anyone know what is? Or can you an identifier app?

Can anyone identify this plant?
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HammockFullOfRats · 14/06/2024 08:22

Google Lens says elder. No idea if that's right or not.

HammockFullOfRats · 14/06/2024 08:25

FWIW on my phone (Android, Chrome browser) I just long-pressed on the picture and tapped the "Search image with Google Lens" option to do that search. Maybe you'll have a similar option available, and you can browse through the results properly to see what looks right.

Geneticsbunny · 14/06/2024 08:36

Can you get a picture of the stem? It could be an ash tree sapling? They have quite smooth grey tinged bark with very distinctive black buds.

Geneticsbunny · 14/06/2024 08:39

It doesn't look quite right for an elder but I can't quite put my finger on why that is. I think the leaves are usually fatter?

Geneticsbunny · 14/06/2024 08:40

Elder stem will be green or pale beige with bumps on so either way a stem pic will help.

PianPianPiano · 14/06/2024 09:10

My plant identifier app says red elderberry...

HammockFullOfRats · 14/06/2024 09:29

Yep Google Lens gave red elderberry as its second option, so that sounds like a good shout to me, at least until human identifiers give us a better idea (maybe with the stem picture a PP requested).

Can anyone identify this plant?
HammockFullOfRats · 14/06/2024 09:39

A better idea of whether that's right or not, I mean. I didn't mean to say that the apps' suggestions were necessarily better than bunny's suggested ID.

MereDintofPandiculation · 14/06/2024 09:54

Geneticsbunny · 14/06/2024 08:39

It doesn't look quite right for an elder but I can't quite put my finger on why that is. I think the leaves are usually fatter?

Leaves usually wider, then narrow to a drawn out tip, rather than tapering to an even tip. I’d like to see a photo of the whole plant unencumbered by willowherb, and a close up of bark and of terminal bud. We’re assuming it’s a tree but it might not be.

Geneticsbunny · 14/06/2024 11:08

Thanks @MereDintofPandiculation is there a fancy botany word for the difference between the two leaf shapes other than them both being pinate?

MereDintofPandiculation · 14/06/2024 12:42

They’re pinnate because both consist of leaflets arranged along a central spine (as opposed to palmate where the leaflets come from a central point, like horse chestnut).

Acuminate is gently narrowing to a tip. Elder are more moving towards cuspidate, which is an abrupt narrowing before the tip. Then there’s mucronate, which is a rounded end with a small tooth at the tip, and aristate, where the leaf narrows into a bristle.

I despair of botanical terminology, which seems to be a lot of arbitrary terms with no relationship or order to them

Quinque · 14/06/2024 12:49

In my experience, the best app for identifying plants is Plantnet. You can choose to identify by means of flower, leaf, stem, fruit etc. It gives the percentage likelihood and you can then check things like soil and habitat.

HammockFullOfRats · 14/06/2024 15:16

MereDintofPandiculation · 14/06/2024 12:42

They’re pinnate because both consist of leaflets arranged along a central spine (as opposed to palmate where the leaflets come from a central point, like horse chestnut).

Acuminate is gently narrowing to a tip. Elder are more moving towards cuspidate, which is an abrupt narrowing before the tip. Then there’s mucronate, which is a rounded end with a small tooth at the tip, and aristate, where the leaf narrows into a bristle.

I despair of botanical terminology, which seems to be a lot of arbitrary terms with no relationship or order to them

I love it when you talk dirty to me.

ManilowBarry · 14/06/2024 16:41

Sambucus ebulus, also known as danewort, dane weed, danesblood, dwarf elder or European dwarf elder, walewort, dwarf elderberry,elderwort and blood hilder, is a herbaceous species of elder, native to southern and central Europe and southwest Asia.

The species is a well-established archaeophyte in much of the UK,[4] and is also reportedly naturalized in parts of North America (New York, New Jersey and Québec).

That's what my plant identifier says!

Geneticsbunny · 14/06/2024 19:37

@HammockFullOfRats that literally made me laugh out loud

Therealmetherealme · 15/06/2024 06:28

Thanks you for all replies, I didn't expect so many and...I'm sorry! My elder has suddenly sprouted and got in amongst the 'weed' so many of you are right! Multitasking is not for me. Opps

Here's the real offender.

Can anyone identify this plant?
Can anyone identify this plant?
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Therealmetherealme · 15/06/2024 06:29

Maybe I should rename the thread, 'talk dirty to me'? All can I manage is soil, mud, dog shit!

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beryldaperil · 15/06/2024 06:50

Brilliant @HammockFullOfRats !

ManilowBarry · 15/06/2024 07:09

Therealmetherealme · 15/06/2024 06:28

Thanks you for all replies, I didn't expect so many and...I'm sorry! My elder has suddenly sprouted and got in amongst the 'weed' so many of you are right! Multitasking is not for me. Opps

Here's the real offender.

Mint.

PianPianPiano · 15/06/2024 07:09

OK, well that one my app says willowherb, and that is def a weed as I'm constantly pulling it out of my garden!

MereDintofPandiculation · 15/06/2024 09:01

I identified that yesterday at 9.54 Grin

MereDintofPandiculation · 15/06/2024 17:11

Actually,it does seem to have a square stem. Still not convinced by mint (which in any case you’d know by the smell).

NoBinturongsHereMate · 15/06/2024 21:52

Definitely not mint. Probably a willowherb.

IOYOYO · 15/06/2024 21:55

Willowherb as pp have said. My garden is full of it!

MavisPennies · 15/06/2024 22:47

Looks like rosebay willow herb. A weed that has small pink flowers