Any idea about this rose?

[Lovetogarden555]

Hi all

I got a rose shrub last year and pic one shows what the roses were like, big fluffy blooms. This year, now... These small flowers have appeared fushia pink, googling they seem to be called dog rose... But why are they part of this rose? I have one big bloom that's come through but now these smaller ones of a different kind, I'm not expert on roses so if anyone has any ideas let me know!

Thanks

I can't see any photos - is it possible you've got a branch from below the graft point that is the native rose (dog?) and above that is the rose you were hoping for?

Pics

Hello @Fuckthecamelyourodeinon I've just uploaded a couple of photos. Oh I see, I have no idea what a graft point is 😬 am I best off cutting off those stems?!

Roses are usually grafted which means that the root is a different type of rose to the top bit. If you trace the branch with the odd roses in back to the base, it will probably be from below the knobbly graft. You can. Just cut it off near the base and the rose will put all it's energy into the flowers which the normal top bit produces.

It sounds like you have a grafted rose. That is when a flowering stem has been grafted onto a much stronger rootstock. The dog rose type flowers will be shoots from this rootstock.

Yes, you need to be quite vigilant with roses, look for dog rose type of stems and leaves and cut them out as low as possible. Otherwise they'll eventually outcompete the grafted rose you really want. I've got a stem appear this year on a rose that's been in over 25 years without doing this before!

The wild species rose that your rose is grafted on to will probably have smaller leaflets and more leaflets per leaf, so look out for this and remove the shoots when you see them

That’s not a dog rose, but it is a wild rose species. Apps don’t have a chance of identifying wild rose species.

Grafting is done for several reasons, for example with apples it controls the eventual size of the tree. For roses I think it’s because it’s quicker than growing from cuttings.