So is this a sunny spot, or a shady spot?

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Not sure what plants i should be looking for to put in a spot that has shade until about 11am, sun for 2 hours, and then shade again. Too shady for sun lovers? Too hot in the midday sun for shade lovers? (surrounded by walls so gets very hot in the summer)

Until now i planted sun loving plants, left them elsewhere until flowering time and then moved them to this area, but they are quite big pots and getting too heavy for me to safely move.

Any suggestions very much appreciated.

That’s not a sunny spot.

Partial shade. 😂

Most summer flowering stuff likes full sun all day long, or at least for most of that time.

Thanks for the link @MereDintofPandiculation

"In practical terms if a site receives less than two hours of direct sun per day, it must be considered to be heavy shade."

So if it's deep shade it should be ferns and hostas etc, which i've tried in the past but they tend to bake and get leaf scorch because of the midday sun.

In that case look for plants for partial shade or for dry shade

shade until about 11am, sun for 2 hours, and then shade again. Too shady for sun lovers? Too hot in the midday sun for shade lovers?
If it only gets 2 hours then it will never qualify as 'sunny'. So you have to accept that it is some version of 'shady'.
Would it work if you planted a something that blocks the midday sun so that the patch is properly shady and nothing gets burnt any more. Maybe some tree with not-too-dense foliage and with the canopy raised so you get dappled shade?

Alternatively, give up with plants and put something else there e.g. seating or statuary.

We've got a few patches like that. Hydrangeas and acers do ok, as does the camelia. They need regular watering in the summer

@senua it's just outside the back door, already makes the kitchen a bit dingy in cloudy weather so don't want to make it any more shady.

@StamppotAndGravy i tried hydrangeas, they just didn't like the midday sun. Acers, though, are lovely. i hadn't thought of them. Do you still get the autumn colours if they're mainly in the shade?

Japanese anemones did well in shade. Foxgloves? Geraniums (not pelargoniums) -Fozanne is long flowering.

Rozanne

More spring colour, less autumn colour. Red ones that are red for most of the year prefer more shade, green ones prefer more sun. I think the hydrangeas probably just needed more water. Ours are fine in full sun provided we feed and water them well. You may need to buy better quality ones though. The supermarket ones tend to die instantly wherever you put them

I've got a spot like that. I've found acers have done well in pots, foxgloves, brunnera, ferns, but I sometimes have to move them round so they are sort of shading each other. I also plant it up with white tulips every year.

It's mostly pots but I've also got some in a border that I've mulched a lot so the soil doesn't dry out when it does get the sun for it's couple of hours a day.

Ivy in pots has also done well.

An hydrangea is struggling but I'm watering and mulching it more this year to see if that helps.

Also have a fatsia spider webb.

Hostas too have been happy.

Thanks for the suggestions

Thank you @StamppotAndGravy Red acers it is then.

@BarrelOfOtters Fatsia, brilliant suggestion. And that variety is lovely, i'd never seen that one before.

@Scintella I'd always thought Geranium macrophylla was the only one that liked deep shade - i have some happily growing there but they flower really early, so i'll try some other varieties. Particularly love the blue ones.
Japanese anemones i've tried in the past. Did ok but not great.