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Two things: is this a weed and what would you plant in a dry shady corner?

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Zerox · 11/04/2024 13:14

Photos attached.

  1. is this a weed? It has sprung up everywhere, in borders, in raised beds and even in plant pots. I haven’t seen it before and it’s easy to pull up. If it isn’t a weed, what is it?

  2. secondly, what would you plant in a dry shady corner of the garden? The fence facing towards you is west facing and the fence on the left is north facing. It’s underneath two ancient fur trees and the corner itself gets no sunlight.

I planted the hydrangea in 2022 and it’s growing very slowly. There are a few existing daffodils. I planted two salvias, one survived, and I planted two fuschias but neither seem very happy.

Nasturtiums love this place but they are summer only and I’d like a bit of shrub structure to make the place look a bit more loved. And yes, that is a Narnia lamppost.

Thanks.

Two things: is this a weed and what would you plant in a dry shady corner?
Two things: is this a weed and what would you plant in a dry shady corner?
Two things: is this a weed and what would you plant in a dry shady corner?
Two things: is this a weed and what would you plant in a dry shady corner?
OP posts:
Zerox · 11/04/2024 13:37

Thanks for the heads up about the willow herb, especially as I have a dog.

OP posts:
sarahc336 · 11/04/2024 13:46

Yes defo been, should be able to pull that up easily by hand

CointreauVersial · 11/04/2024 13:49

Yes, it's a weed. An annual, so easy to pull up.

Dry shade - try hydrangeas, hellebores and maybe a few snowdrops.

Luckydog7 · 11/04/2024 13:49

I have a bed against my back wall that gets basically no sunlight.

I plant calla lillies, foam flowers (tiarella) and I have a lovely white fusia. Fusia are shade tolerant generally. Another option is hellebore which usually grown under trees. I have some geom which have also been very successful there. Nearly everything has died or fails to flower at all.

Luckydog7 · 11/04/2024 13:50

Everything ELSE that should be.

MereDintofPandiculation · 11/04/2024 14:20

CointreauVersial · 11/04/2024 13:49

Yes, it's a weed. An annual, so easy to pull up.

Dry shade - try hydrangeas, hellebores and maybe a few snowdrops.

No, it’s not an annual

MereDintofPandiculation · 11/04/2024 14:23

Luckydog7 · 11/04/2024 13:49

I have a bed against my back wall that gets basically no sunlight.

I plant calla lillies, foam flowers (tiarella) and I have a lovely white fusia. Fusia are shade tolerant generally. Another option is hellebore which usually grown under trees. I have some geom which have also been very successful there. Nearly everything has died or fails to flower at all.

If you’re wanting to google these, OP - Fuchsia and Geum.

DrSpartacular · 11/04/2024 14:24

Hydrangeas need lots of moisture (the clue is in the name 'hydra') so won't do well in dry shade like that.

Zerox · 11/04/2024 14:25

Love Lillie’s! Would snapdragon Lillies grow there,the orange ones?

Also, here’s another photo of something that keeps coming back. I hope it’s some form of bluebell-again, I hope it isn’t a toxic weed.

Two things: is this a weed and what would you plant in a dry shady corner?
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Shinyandnew1 · 11/04/2024 14:26

Careful with lillies if you have cats though.

astilbe
heuchera
ferns
pieris
euphorbia

do well

Zerox · 11/04/2024 14:28

DrSpartacular · 11/04/2024 14:24

Hydrangeas need lots of moisture (the clue is in the name 'hydra') so won't do well in dry shade like that.

The one that’s there in the photo is surviving quite nicely -maybe because it isn’t shaded by the trees so much. The actual soil is clay. But thanks for the heads up as I was thinking of planting another one further back into the corner which wouldn’t work, would it? I feel I might be limited to ferns as my snowdrops didn’t flower this year.

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Freysimo · 11/04/2024 14:30

That looks like a Spanish bluebell. Lots of gardeners hate them as they take over from our native species but I like them and have several clumps round the garden.

Zerox · 11/04/2024 14:32

Oh good, thank you @Freysimo -I’m quite happy for them to take over my garden!

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SnapdragonToadflax · 11/04/2024 14:53

I have quite a lot of dry shade, under an oak tree. It's lovely in spring but tricky in summer/autumn - I tend to just leave it to do its thing and concentrate on the rest of the garden. From about April to September it does get some sun. However it's in full shade in winter. Clay soil - in droughts it does all just curl up and die, but it mostly comes back.

What does well:

Hellebores
Daffodils
Forget me knots
Sweet rocket
Foxgloves
Tiarella
Dicentra
Geraniums in the sunnier bits
Ivy and vinca (spread like mad)

Hydrangeas won't like being under a tree - they need water, and trees are thirsty.

ladygindiva · 11/04/2024 14:56

My Camellias love the shade. Grow fast and flower loads too.

Blarn · 11/04/2024 15:00

I think the pine tress will prevent a lot of things growing there. Perhaps try ferns or Cyclamen.

blackcherryconserve · 11/04/2024 15:26

I second a Pieris - mine is also on a west facing wall with only late afternoon sun. It's a windy roof terrace and hydrangea, ferns, camellia, rhodedendron, hellebores, hosta and fuschia generally do well for me. Mine are all in pots so I am careful to water them when needed, especially the hydrangea.

Yamadori · 11/04/2024 15:53

Zerox · 11/04/2024 14:25

Love Lillie’s! Would snapdragon Lillies grow there,the orange ones?

Also, here’s another photo of something that keeps coming back. I hope it’s some form of bluebell-again, I hope it isn’t a toxic weed.

They are Spanish bluebells. Invasive and threatening the native bluebell by hybridising with it.

Zerox · 11/04/2024 16:11

Yamadori · 11/04/2024 15:53

They are Spanish bluebells. Invasive and threatening the native bluebell by hybridising with it.

Oh. Out they come.

Thanks for all your suggestions.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 11/04/2024 20:51

Freysimo · 11/04/2024 14:30

That looks like a Spanish bluebell. Lots of gardeners hate them as they take over from our native species but I like them and have several clumps round the garden.

Not Spanish, but the hybrid with the Spanish, which is usually what is meant when people say “spanish bluebell” The true Spanish bluebell is a much lest robust looking plant

Hyacinthoides hispanica - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinthoides_hispanica#/media/File%3AScilla_hispanica_1.JPG

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