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Wildflower meadow

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jen337 · 09/03/2024 16:51

How do I start a wildflower meadow? I’ve got an area of lawn I’ve left to grow the past few years, just cutting once a year at the end of the summer. I want to introduce some flowers into it now. Didn’t expect it to be a 4 year process! Who knew letting it go back to nature is more effort than having a lawn! If I cut the grass short and fork the soil over then scatter some flower seeds if that a good way to get it started? Would like to see some flowers this summer if possible, if that’s not too ambitious?

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Geneticsbunny · 09/03/2024 22:04

You need to introduce yellow rattle. It is a parasite of grass and will weaken the grass so that the wild flowers can grow

skilpadde · 09/03/2024 22:12

You'll need to take the lawn up. Wildflower seeds just can't compete with grass.

sailrunski · 09/03/2024 22:15

Take the lawn up. I've just laid wild flower turf - seeds weren't establishing.

Hollyhocksandlarkspur · 09/03/2024 22:20

Yes echo above. Remove clods of grass, rake soil, sow yellow rattle and any local native organic seed or seed from friends nearby that you know to be native. The yellow rattle will help to keep the grass down but you will still need to stop it taking over in places. Even if you don’t sow anymother seed apart from rattle you will probably find that lovely wildflowers come up as the seeds can lie dormant for years.

We did this, just mowed at end of September and I know you’re meant to remove all the cuttings to stop the soil gaining nutrients as best for wildflowers, but we haven’t been so great at this. However the very first season we had orchids. Enjoy OP what a lovely project. The pollinators and birds will love it.

ThursdayTomorrow · 09/03/2024 22:24

I wouldn’t take up the lawn, I would just buy a few plug plants of wild flowers each year and bung them in.
In my garden centre today they had ragged robin, oxeye daisy and primrose plug plants. If you buy a few a few each year it’s very easy and not expensive.

Mumblechum0 · 09/03/2024 22:28

Yes do yellow rattle first to kill the grass. Depending on the size you may want to cover the whole thing in sand.
basically you need to kill everything before sowing the seeds.
this is ours after 2 years:

cloudtree · 09/03/2024 22:33

It isn’t cheap. The seed costs a fortune. Mine took years and is really still dominated by grasses but that in itself (left long) is an amazing wildlife habitat. We get thousands of grasshoppers and moths.

to boost the flowers I dug up all the weeds (wildflowers in the wrong place) and I transplant them into the wildflower area. Lots survive, particularly things like rosebay willow herb which grow everywhere in my garden.

jen337 · 10/03/2024 07:38

Thanks for the replies . I’m far from a keen gardener but thought this would be easy, like sit back and watch it go Wild! I’ve bought a pack of wildflower seeds but will look into the plugs. So all the grass needs to be removed back to bare soil first? Have I left it too late in the spring to start?

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cloudtree · 10/03/2024 08:03

It isn’t at all easy. You do need bare soil first. Not too late to plant seeds since most mixes will be largely annuals. It’s very beneficial for nature though if you’re prepared to invest the time and effort.

olderbutwiser · 10/03/2024 08:06

If a wildflower garden happened easily through neglect you’d see a lot more of them than you do. They are hard work and need a degree of expertise. Regular mowing is a much easier option.

AlisonDonut · 10/03/2024 08:11

Making a wildflower meadow is not just a 'don't mow' project.

If you aren't wanting to deturf and basically, start again, then the advice of a year of Yellow Rattle to reduce the grass levels, and then resow wildflower seeds in the autumn is probably the easiest but it leaves you with not alot to look at.

If you want more 'instant' results, digging up the turf and replacing with wildflower turf bought in, would be better but quite expensive.

Also, your soil might actually be quite nutritious whereas wild flowers like low nutrition soil, which is often where the idea of adding sand comes into it. However if you have clay, and add sand, what you get is cob which is so hard when dry it is used to make bricks.

Luckydog7 · 10/03/2024 08:19

I used to work with our local conservation officer. To save money one year we started replacing formal beds with wild flower gardens in municipal beds.

The fastest way to turn grass into wild flowers areas was to simply turn the soil over. We did it via machine but if you have the muscle a spade would work fine. Turn over deep chunks 6/7 inches so the grass is buried and you expose bare earth. The earth is from deep enough that there is very little nutrients which is perfect for wild flowers.

Once it's over turned. Loosen it and seed. Our beds had an amazing first year and the second year was good too with no further effort. Ours were mainly poppies and cornflours.

MereDintofPandiculation · 10/03/2024 11:24

jen337 · 10/03/2024 07:38

Thanks for the replies . I’m far from a keen gardener but thought this would be easy, like sit back and watch it go Wild! I’ve bought a pack of wildflower seeds but will look into the plugs. So all the grass needs to be removed back to bare soil first? Have I left it too late in the spring to start?

No, not too late. Use a sharp spade to cut the turf into spade-width strips, then cut transversely every 0.5m. Slide your spade in under the turf, about 5-7.5 cm deep, and you’ll find your spade goes through the soil easily to lift a slab of turf. Repeat.

If you have space somewhere , stack the turves upside down,and in a couple of years they’ll rot down into good soil.

re-seed the lawn with a wildflower/grass mix.

That’s the Rolls-Royce method.

In your situation, I would remove the turf from selected areas, and sow your wildflower seeds. If your wild flower seeds are mainly cornflower, corn marigold, poppy etc, those are wild flowers of arable fields, and need the soil clearing every year. So I’d also get a packet containing things like clover, self heal, birds foot trefoil, daisy, and mix that in.

Leave the grass to grow on the rest. When it’s in full flower, cut the grass right down and remove the cuttings. You can continue to enjoy your flowers.

Next year, give everything a good mow in late April or early May, then leave it all to grow and start cutting again in late August. Hopefully, the plants in the area you cleared will start infiltrating the grass only area. And you can always add plants. Go for perennials not annuals.

MereDintofPandiculation · 10/03/2024 11:30

This is one mix designed for a proper meadow, with grass (a planting of mixed cornflowers, poppies etc is not a meadow). You’ll see it has annuals for instant gratification, and a selection of perennials to establish for the long term. The pictures below show the flowers in successive years.

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jen337 · 10/03/2024 12:34

Thanks again. I don’t think I’ve got the time or motivation for a rolls Royce wildflower meadow. Will go with the turning the turf over approach and then seed. I’ve bought a basic wildflower mix which is probably mostly annuals so will go out and get some of the others suggested, esp the yellow rattle and plugs

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jen337 · 10/03/2024 12:34

Thanks again. I don’t think I’ve got the time or motivation for a rolls Royce wildflower meadow. Will go with the turning the turf over approach and then seed. I’ve bought a basic wildflower mix which is probably mostly annuals so will go out and get some of the others suggested, esp the yellow rattle and plugs

That's a good approach.

Don't do the yellow rattle this year, it does best sown in autumn. When you sow it, make sure the seed gets right down against the soil, and doesn't just hover among the grass leaves. You'll need to sow it in the grass, and not in your cleared wild flower bits, because it actually needs the grass in order to flourish.

jen337 · 16/06/2024 17:28

Thought I’d update. With all the rain we’ve had all sorts of things have been shooting up. If anyone could identify the plants circled yellow in the pics I’d really appreciate it, and if I should remove them. I was trying to keep on top of unwanted things and grass growing, but I have let that slip. However I actually have some wildflowers, yay! A lot of grass and random looking plants too. Should I mow it back or just leave it now? There’s yellow rattle plugs in there too, still quite small but growing.

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zebrapig · 16/06/2024 17:30

The round leaves look like Nasturtiums but not sure on the others sorry

Bumblebeeinatree · 16/06/2024 17:33

ThursdayTomorrow · 09/03/2024 22:24

I wouldn’t take up the lawn, I would just buy a few plug plants of wild flowers each year and bung them in.
In my garden centre today they had ragged robin, oxeye daisy and primrose plug plants. If you buy a few a few each year it’s very easy and not expensive.

I agree, just add in some growing plants they will multiply over time, cut the grass after the wild flowers have seeded and before they are growing tall in the spring.

MereDintofPandiculation · 16/06/2024 20:23

The fluffy one will be a mayweed or chamomile, with daisy like flowers. The upright one with hairy leaves looks like corncockle, big pink flowers with rows of black dashes looking like stitching to show the bees the way to the centre, the upright one with more spreading leaves looks like a Linaria, with tiny snapdragon flowers.

Don’t mow it, leave it all to grow, and see how many different grass flowers you have.

Tinkerbot · 19/06/2024 14:51

Is it sunny - meadows are out in the open and full sun ( if there is any) normally.

i have a lawn I’d like to make wild but much is in the shade of trees.

AlisonDonut · 19/06/2024 14:56

First one and third one are California Poppies.
Second one is Phaecelia
Fifth one is Corncockle and Nasturtium

jen337 · 19/06/2024 18:27

Tinkerbot · 19/06/2024 14:51

Is it sunny - meadows are out in the open and full sun ( if there is any) normally.

i have a lawn I’d like to make wild but much is in the shade of trees.

The area I’ve planted is about partially shaded and the flowers are definitely doing better in the sunny areas

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jen337 · 19/06/2024 18:27

AlisonDonut · 19/06/2024 14:56

First one and third one are California Poppies.
Second one is Phaecelia
Fifth one is Corncockle and Nasturtium

Thanks! Looking forward to see the other flowers bloom now!

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OhFensa · 19/06/2024 18:40

When you cut the meadow, leave it for a few days so the seeds of the wildflowers can settle, then rake up all the cut material and compost it if you can. If you keep doing that, you'll reduce the nutrients in the soil which will be better for wildflowers vs grass.

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