Trying to identify tree

[Froghat]

Hi, not sure if this is the best forum for my question. I’m trying to work out what this tree is. Can anyone help? I’ve tried using an app but haven’t got anywhere.

The bark looks as if some kind of cherry

Or possibly whitebeam

Have you seen it in flower or fruit?

Unfortunately not… No idea what to expect. It’s actually currently bare and I’ve not seen it with leaves. The picture is historic

Can you get new pictures showing the full shape, and closeups of the bark and leaf buds?

Why do you want to know? It looks like it is a street tree on public land.

It might be Rowan. It's difficult to see the leaf shape in your picture.

Get plant net app and look it up.

The photo is very blurred. Can you take some clearer ones with close ups of the leaves, stems and bark?

It’s bare at the moment and my pictures aren’t great unfortunately.

Unfortunately no leaves at the moment.

Too dense for rowan, I think, and there’s no sign of the pinnate leaves with relatively small leaflets. Wrong crown shape for whitebeam, and wrong leaf colour. Some of the leaves do appear to be clustered palmately and I wondered horse chestnut, but bark is wrong. Bark is OK for cherry, and leaf size and shape would match that.

Not Rowan. LeafSnap says cherry and I'm inclined to agree.

I agree it's very cherry-like bark. Any leaf or flower buds on the twigs yet?

Not yet.

Would it be what is known as a “wild cherry”? Is that as opposed to an ornamental cherry? Please forgive my ignorance.

I was thinking of an ornamental cherry, ie a "flowering cherry", commonly planted as street trees, rather than "wild cherry" or "bird cherry". We have some very fat-trunked flowering cherries in a park near us, possibly 60 years old. (on the basis that 30 years ago they weren't noticeably smaller)102

Rather upright growing though, and that might point more to Bird Cherry. Or I might be talking rubbish. The stry numbers on my previous post were my cat's contribution.

Ah that makes sense. So helpful, thank you!!

Clever cat. :)

The horizontal bark markings and fissures makes me think possibly mature wild cherry or a hybrid. Difficult to tell without either leaves or flowers though.