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Best trellis for sweet peas

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ningaj · 04/06/2023 15:01

I'm a novice gardener and have inherited a garden I'm still getting to grips with.

Every year sweet peas come up by one of my fences, and every year they run wild! I have tried string trellis' attached to the fence but they fell off.

Any suggestions on trellis options that will support them?

Also worth knowing - it's my neighbours fence so nothing that will damaged it, and ideally nothing plastic.

Thanks!

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ningaj · 04/06/2023 15:03

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Best trellis for sweet peas
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Greensleeves · 04/06/2023 15:19

I make a frame out of bamboo canes and use strings, I find the sweet peas grab the strings more easily than trellis,

Greensleeves · 04/06/2023 15:21

Like this

Best trellis for sweet peas
SarahAndQuack · 04/06/2023 15:41

They're everlasting peas, not sweet peas - both are lovely, though!

All tendril-growing things like this prefer something rough. So string would work. I grow mine up obelisks made of coppiced hazel with either birch or dogwood woven around, so there are loads of bits of twig for them to cling onto. You could adapt that by pushing hazel sticks into the ground at intervals? Or you could make an obelisk in front of the fence and train it onto them. Realistically, if you want them to grow up the fence, I would have thought there aren't many options that will be sturdy and won't involve damaging the fence/basically putting up your own section of fence immediately beside that one?

AMonthOfSundaes · 04/06/2023 18:51

I'd hang/fix something like pea netting to the fence.

BriarHare · 04/06/2023 18:58

Our everlasting peas just grow up whatever they can latch on to.

The sweet peas grow up metal obelisks as I hate the look of canes if I can avoid them.

Nannyfannybanny · 04/06/2023 19:00

They are sweet peas, perennial ones, shame they don't smell.. If you don't want to attach to neighbours fence, wigwam of canes,tied at the top with string. Pea netting is plastic,and very fiddly, you need to attach it in a lot of places, either way, when the plants start coming up,you need to wind them round the cane etc to start them off.

SarahAndQuack · 04/06/2023 19:05

Nannyfannybanny · 04/06/2023 19:00

They are sweet peas, perennial ones, shame they don't smell.. If you don't want to attach to neighbours fence, wigwam of canes,tied at the top with string. Pea netting is plastic,and very fiddly, you need to attach it in a lot of places, either way, when the plants start coming up,you need to wind them round the cane etc to start them off.

Sweet peas (lathyrus odoratus) are not perennial (they might survive in a very warm winter, but it's the exception). What the OP has are everlasting peas (lathyrus latifolius). As the Latin name indicates, it's only the sweet peas that smell - the perennial ones do not.

Sandybabey · 05/06/2023 10:45

Metal or wooden obelisks are really pretty and give nice height

LIZS · 05/06/2023 10:54

Fix chicken wire behind it , with fixings in the fence posts, or buy wire obelisks.

LIZS · 05/06/2023 10:55

Just seen fence not yours, try tree stakes with chicken wire.

Nannyfannybanny · 05/06/2023 11:30

Their actual name is The Perennial Peavine. Mr Fothergill and D.T. Brown sell the seeds as perennial sweet peas. No, they don't smell, suppose they are quite sweet, although they do tend to take over the bed. Disappearing in winter completely and whipping up out of nowhere.

SarahAndQuack · 05/06/2023 18:20

Nannyfannybanny · 05/06/2023 11:30

Their actual name is The Perennial Peavine. Mr Fothergill and D.T. Brown sell the seeds as perennial sweet peas. No, they don't smell, suppose they are quite sweet, although they do tend to take over the bed. Disappearing in winter completely and whipping up out of nowhere.

'Their actual name'! Grin
Their actual name is the Latin one. Anything else is a common name and there are loads of different ones.

Nannyfannybanny · 05/06/2023 18:25

I do speak Latin in medical terminology, but I don't think most folk tend to use the Latin name of plants.

SarahAndQuack · 05/06/2023 18:27

Nannyfannybanny · 05/06/2023 18:25

I do speak Latin in medical terminology, but I don't think most folk tend to use the Latin name of plants.

You'd be surprised, then. It's quite common for posters in this section to give Latin names, because that is how plants are generally sold at good plant nurseries or by suppliers.

Nothing wrong with using a common name, but you can't declare grandly that your preferred common name is the 'actual name,' because most of the time, it's simply not true. Most plants (including this one) have multiple common names and only one Latin name ... which is why people who know plants tend to use the Latin.

SarahAndQuack · 05/06/2023 18:33

And so that this doesn't become pointless - the reason it matters to know which plant we're talking about is that lathyrus latifolius, which the OP has, is going to get much heavier than l. odoratus, so needs more robust support.

ningaj · 06/06/2023 07:47

I think some sort of obelisks might be the answer - ideally hazel / wood ones if those exist. The run along a 2-3m length of ground so maybe 2 or 3 would work?

Didn't know there was such thing as everlasting peas! I already assumed they were sweet peas, they do have a lovely smell!!

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Nannyfannybanny · 06/06/2023 08:07

I thought I "knew" about plants, been gardening over 60 years, but if I visit a garden charity whatever, some one asks the name of a plant. It would be pompous and unnecessary to give them the Latin name. Poster says she is a novice,and ends by saying, the plants have a lovely smell

MereDintofPandiculation · 06/06/2023 08:45

Nannyfannybanny · 06/06/2023 08:07

I thought I "knew" about plants, been gardening over 60 years, but if I visit a garden charity whatever, some one asks the name of a plant. It would be pompous and unnecessary to give them the Latin name. Poster says she is a novice,and ends by saying, the plants have a lovely smell

That’s fair enough, give them a common name. But what you can’t do is declare any common name as “their actual name” as if it has any more validity than all the other common names in use for the plant.

Many garden plants don’t have common names, you wouldn’t think twice about telling someone a plant was a Cotoneaster. And how many people talk about Gloriosa Daisies nowadays?

Nannyfannybanny · 06/06/2023 09:51

I can't find the original site,it said actual name,that didn't come from me. As for seller always using Latin name first, the seed producers I mentioned call them "perennial sweet peas"

Best trellis for sweet peas
MereDintofPandiculation · 06/06/2023 11:00

Looks like “perennial pea vine” is a US usage. I’ve never heard it in the UK. Yourfirst site is indication enough that it’s not “the actual name”.

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